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  2. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    1. This was addressed. No one bothered when you had one post for all of 24+ hrs because they figured youd come in and make yourself apparent town. You ramped up your activity, but content-wise I felt your reads and reasons were weak and openly questioned you on some of them (LFN comes to mind) 2. I disagree with a few things here, but to limit myself to the main things: calling him out as neutral was the correct play for town there because scum will be forced to deal with him. Calling him town keeps him alive as mislynch target. I literally said on d1 that I wasn't going to bother with Mascis because if he's neutral, he's scum's probelm. Malcolm's mistake was trying to subtly push town to lynch.
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    Nearly half of town voted you over Silver. Me trying convince town to kill a better target and me killing you over Silver are not the same thing so strop trying to make it sound like they are. Silver was obv town. You weren't. I made it clear while you were around that I wasn't killing him. Gaia you punted d1 and didn't take a position on the d1 lynch. You literally voted silver because it would "give info." EVERY LYNCH GIVES FUCKING INFO. It gives info does not tell me jack shit about your motivations and is the equivalent of apathy (which guess what, is scum indicative). I already apologized for the timing. I have a job and I couldn't really make posts that more than one liners during business hours . I'm not gonna apologize for giving my thoughts on the game or including you in them. You also act like the entire post was focused on you when literally 7 other players were mentioned and you weren;t even at the top of my kill list. If we are gonna talk about my lack of logic, let's look at yours here If a good player voted you, its because they fearkilled you. If a bad player voted, you its a bw. When people want to comment about my ego, I'm going to refer them to this. Unsurprisingly, I don't think it would have mattered if all 19 other players voted you as they would have been grouped in one of those two categories. You have only yourself to blame for your lynch. If you don't punt d1, and projected town second half of d1, you don't get scumread by half the game and don't die.
  4. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

  5. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

  6. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

    Depends on who pays me. If you don;t pay, I'm probably gonna make sure you get the last pick. If everyone pays me before the draft, it gets randomized.
  7. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

    Will the draft order will be randomly assigned once everyone joins the league?
  8. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Not talking about myself but about what you said to Malcolm. Bolded is the entire problem with what you're saying, if it's only poor play when he's scum then wtf are we even talking about? If you're wrong suddenly it's not the townies fault for not projecting town enough? Gutreads are not relevant basis for critiscism.
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    If I feel there is something wrong with your posts (and I am right) then there is defenitly a flaw in your game because you don't project town well enough. ZP did the same thing for me. You just played differently because I usually like your D1 when you're town. At least the last couple of games. It was not just because of the votecounts
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    Ehh 44 hours is a stretch considering you basically took the first 24 hours off. I am pretty sure I did voice my concerns but that's beside the point. At the end of that day phase we wanted to abort the silver lynch, we had mascis pegged for neutral, and slick+underwood+I had no other overlapping scum read except for you. It was really a fluke thing and I think you're making it out to be more than it is. It will probably never happen again on this forum. I'm not saying it's bad to peg mascis as neutral. What I'm saying is it looks like perfect info to peg a neutral. He knows the scum team, it makes it that much easier to peg a sketchy non-scum as the neutral. BTW I've played one game where you were scum and it was alignment conversion. Not sure it counts. I've played one other game besides this one where we were both town and I ended up working with you for a phase but you got NK'd (it was a JC game).
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    1. the difference is that I wasnt afk all day, you had 44 hours to voice your concerns, and noone said anything and that's whats foul. If I was afk the whole day then of course it would have been fair game but i was vocal and very active, you just decided to not say anything for most of my game. And its the first lynch of the game, its not lylo where you kill scum of get killed, you had time and days to discuss and argue and analyze. Instead you waste a day talking every single person but me then ignore all that just to go 'lets kill crei lol'. Even if i happened to flip scum you have pretty much admitted that you wasted your whole day by doing so. 2. It would have been a fine play to peg mascis as neutral because he is anti town, so you put him as neutral, never lynch him, and scum are forced to waste a nk down the road on him over a pro town player. In fact Malcolm is the only person other than me who got why mascis should never be lynched by town, so what you deem as scummy is actually a very pro town play. I just didnt spell neutral because if I call him town he gets nk'd easier. Malcolm did explain it to you and most people needed like 2-3 days to grasp it. 3. The gaia is town/scum paranoia actually helps me as scum. Go back and reread every game im scum and underwood/you is town scumreading me. Ive derailed the game for at least half its life span on walls over walls over walls to still be alive. By the time I do get to die ive mislynched at least a couple townies and made the thread unreadable for town to solve because my teammates are buried in a sea of arguments 4. You should vocally suspect, but you didnt do it with me. From suspicion to lynch is a very long way.
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    that reminds me best post in the thread lmaooo
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    lol I asked you a simple question and you couldn't answer it
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    You can't just say 'you didn't play well because I gutread you as scum'. That means nothing without actual follow up.
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    Most games I wait until I have a good feeling about you to decide but you just felt off from the start. Most of my early reads are gutreads. This just wasn't your best game
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    You didn’t project town enough (see PSK’s play) and malcolm generally did scummy things this game like pocket+dodge+out mascis+tie at eod+ bitch about being called scum. don’t act like you guys aren’t prone to slipping up here and there. ftr I thought you played fine and better than the other half of the game at least, should have given you a chance to defend yourself, etc.
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    I also don’t believe your stream of consciousness diarrhea needs to be addressed at all times either
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    I barely dodged your terrible questions. I would point out mascis as town or scum. I’m sorry I think on a much higher plane Paranoid players suspect me in every single game I play and it is always the same ones that do it. This happens to ash and it happens to stefanos as well. I don’t have the luxury of being townread for playing like a psychotic moron like some players do.
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    I'll admit I made a mistake. I wasn't sure on your alignment (had you as like 50/50) and I should have let it sit for a phase. From my perspective, you died from a combination of group think and defending mascis. I actually think it was fine, just unfortunate. I hope there's no hard feelings. The time zone thing sucks but it's part of the game--I don't think it's fair to say we should never lynch someone who is AFK, especially in a no claim game. Days shouldn't be scheduled to end that late for europeans anyway--it's a clear disadvantage. Malcolm rightly deserved suspicion this game for liberally tossing shade, pegging mascis as neutral, and dodging questions. I'm not sure how you ever had him as solid town. If the "mafia gods" don't want to be suspected they can project town better. I suspect Malcolm most games because he plays scummy most games. I suspect you most games because your scum game is almost perfect, and the difference between it and your town game is very subtle. What am I supposed to do about that, huh? In the future, I'll give additional consideration to handing out day passes (I actually gave one to JC this game), but I still think it's correct to vocally suspect good players when they're not making sense (your mascis defense) or not being fully transparent (malcolm's play).
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    yeah, that lunch fucking sucked
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    My game was fine. You slick and jazz suspect better players every single game, it has nothing to do with how we play but with how you perceive reality. Go back to every single game we've played and find one day 1 where you don't suspect me/Malcolm/rei . Either everyone sucks or...? Plus going 'oh it's minus ev but I'm still going for it!' Is still going for it lol, we have a name for shit' like that and it's called distancing. Stop excusing your lack of logic and take the " I can't let myself get outplayed therefore Gaia is scum" glasses off. My lunch was baseless, you just had three people who would always go for me in every game if they are town, forced silver and a scum to boot. You made a huge post that no one could respond at the time of you posting it, formed a train with these people, and then people who are easily influenced (tyranno, Brandis) jumped on the momentum because that's how mafia works when there is only one side to an argument. Under those circumstances I can kill ANY person in ANY game. That is how I died and not because of an "off game"
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    Not sure if this is a joke, but if it's not, almost half of town (7/16) (all but one town) wanted to kill you. I wasn't the only one that fos'd you (slickz, psk, silver all did too). Despite my suspicions, I even said killing you was minus EV. However, silver projected much harder town than you and there was 0 chance I was killing him over you. I was willing to kill other people, but if it was between you and him, you were dying. You had an off game, get over it.
  23. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

    Can you guys join the league please. I don't want the draft to not run because I couldn't hunt someone down.
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