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  1. 9 points
  2. 8 points
    Too many scans. Way too many scans. Faint's role was too good sup biases towards my favourite character i guess Mascis getting NKed made me actually angry. Shout outs to Malcolm who made the decision all by himself Shout outs to no claiming being a fucking awful idea i will never do again, and shout outs to town shrugging off three modkills - i actually thought the game was almost balanced like halfway thru so much for that MVP is faint and LFN, and honestly getting 20 of you guys to come out and jam that was fucking amazing and im so glad it happened LVP is overall game design Dead QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/maSFxS8hLW3 Conspiracy QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/gZbDAkCVnk8 (Your friendly neighborhood Tyranno says hi)
  3. 7 points
    extremely frustrating game. Extremely frustrating scum team except my bb soph. Aside from the game being impossible to win, I thoroughly enjoyed many people in town losing their minds in anger. Stefanos dying day one was great I appreciate anyone hosting and trying to run things because it’s a lot of work modding a role madness game. Thanks ash for trying your best. Lots of lessons learned no doubt
  4. 5 points
    mod claimed your role for you in start of day flavour we'll have to give you a warning point for this faint, don't let it happen again
  5. 5 points
  6. 4 points
    Thoughts Overall getting the 20 people to play in a game is an accomplishment in itself so kudo to rei and the section overall on that. It really gave us a chance to see if people's skills improved. Game Design and Modding I won't harp on this too long since rei already mentioned it, but design wise, the game was very town friendly. Also, keeping up the flavor even tho no one read it makes the game better so thank you for that. I think the best girl mechanic is very interesting, but I think scum needed something to balance it out. Jazz asked me what I would have done and I told him I probably would have made everyone but scum vanilla unless voted best girl. That gives people an incentive to fight for best girl, doesn't reveal scum doesn't want it, and just overall balances things out. It's a slightly boring answer since VT don't have a ton of incentive to be active, but its what came to mind. PSA - If you have information in a no-claim game, don't be a douchebag. I get why rei is done with no claiming. Modding it is a lot of work and people just can't seem to understand no-claim means not giving away info that reveals you're role. We had a modkill on JC for softing a role. Slickz got warned for revealing another player's role. Tyranno literally claimed part of his role. Stop trying to fucking push the envelope to see how far you can go before the mod kills you. It's no claim for a reason. The info is for your benefit so you can steer town in the right direction WITHOUT REVEALING YOU HAVE PERFECT INFO. The reason its no claim is because claiming wouldn't let him put certain roles into the game because said roles would break the game. Like my god, could you imagine if I lived day 2 and just posted the name of every girl itt and said I think all of the girls are town based on the votes. Honestly, I think most players on DG cannot handle playing like this and games will have to be designed to be full claim from now on, which limits what can be done and forces scum to get good at fake and counterclaiming. Using foreign languages - I get that we all have google translate and can figure out what it means, but it makes more work for the mod in these type of games. I don't want police this, but it's something we have to consider a little bit after this since the mod shouldn't have to go through every post in the game and then google translate them to see if youre pulling some shit or not. PSA - Toxicity Before anyone says it, no this isn't only referencing Jazz. Jazz was the worst example of it this game to be sure, but myself, slickz, lfn, hazmah etc . . . all played a role in it (centered around Jazz but still). I get this DG and some players should just grow a set and realize its not that serious, but antagonizing players just do antagonize them doesn't help you win the game and it drives people away from the community. As scum (hazmah), you don't want to do this either because as you saw it gets the antagonized player town read. Moreover, without fail, every single time I see one of these toxic fights break out, I don't want to continue to play because its uncomfortable to deal with that. Fwiw, I literally asked rei before the game to warn and threaten to kill ppl for toxicity. People's Play and The Game itself 1: Silver - I thought he was super apparent town the moment he went after Gaia hard. As I explained itt, going after Gaia is a great way to get yourself killed and there;s no way Silver does that as scum. 2: TheGoldenTyranno - The modkill was probably a little harsh, but given how my role turned out, it's fine. Tyranno - stop fucking defending people's alignments who you aren't sure on. As town, you want a real to kill the person, not a reason to keep them slive. My defense of Silver was directly related to my desire to lynch Gaia because I thought his reasons for lynching Silver were trash and reasoning behind reads weren't that great. As hilarious as my town read on you was, I shouldnt have to be put in that position to make that call. You can make yourself obv town without that. 3: Faint- Probably the first time in awhile where you weren't an easy town read for me on d1. Idk if that was intentional or the bigger game threw you off. 4: Wunterslaus - If you don't believe that someone is going to kill you, you don't try, hence why I made sure you believed that I would end you (and if you didn't try, believe me I would have gotten town to lynch you for it). Your reads were good so try. That's effort, that's not lack of ability. 5: Malcolm - Worst thing you could have done was outed Mascis as neutral and then asking me about it. I was never letting him die after that. iThe vote on Silver was a really good opportunity for you and I think you should have rammed it down town's throat. Like you said in the QT, the Gaia lynch was the most +EV lynch for scum ever. In hindsight, pointing out Mascis was a perfect info slip that everyone missed. 6: Sophocles - I made my thoughts known on you in dead chat. While your play with the vote counts was obv and got called out, I didn't think you were the best lynch by far on most dates. I think you had it right in the QT where town just decided to kill you and wouldn't move off it. 7: Jazz - If you get mad, walk the fuck away. Pm rei for a sub. DO LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE THAN WHAT YOU DID. Also, you have to learn to watch the thread and post with an objective. I shouldn't have to control you itt. We don't need you every damn thought on every post. Seriously look at the dead qt and it was almost unanimous that after you got the TR from a player, they ignored your posts completely. Like honestly, give yourself a self-imposed posting restriction of X posts per page. It will make you a better player. 8: BuildtheWalia - People townreading you truly disgusted me. I feel like you got the reverse treatment of Soph. Ppl townread you over nothing and then just never re-evaluated. For everyone else, if you can't explain what someone's agenda is or why you are townreading them, you need to re-evaluate. Asking questions is something any player can do and I guarantee if I did it without taking a stance on anything, I'd be lynched for it. Hold town to a higher standard ppl. 9: Slickz - Probably town's MVP in all honestly. Was right and kept the schedule. 10: Confuse rei - I'm sorry about the timing of my post, but I had work. If I posted when you were on or you posted more than one post before like 6-8 hrs left on d1, you probably don't die, but realize that 8 people killed you and only 1 was scum. 11: LFN - Really good game. Right behind Slickz for MVP for me. 12: PSK - THIS IS HOW YOU PLAY TOWN AND GET YOURSELF TOWNREAD PPL. TAKE NOTES. Psk didn't have to post much, but he offered unique insight to certain situations, was unafraid to comment on big name players (Gaia), and it was clear what his agenda was with each post. This was easiest townread of the game. I thought the shot on Brandis was shit, but I get why PSK made it and ultimately it kept town on schedule so no harm no foul. 15: haz - Really underrated player from reading the QT. His scum game will get better but he was an easy tr on d1 and gave more content than most players. 16: JC - Punted d1 and got better as the days went along so that's fair. 17: The Antagonist - I didn't have any problems with your posting style or the content therein. I think you just went contrarian with a few things and it was hard to get a read on you. Gaia probably had the best read in that something about your posts struck him as town, 18: Brandis72 - Not enough to really talk about it. Getting killed on night 1 after a very empty d1. 19: Solstice - Decent recovery day 2, but same deal with Jazz. Post with an objective. No one wants a stream of conciousness 20: ZeroPassion - Youre usually pretty good from what I remember and I think you kind of knew you were trading yourself for Gaia with that vote. That's a trade I am okay with. Good job putting the team on your back with that one. 20: Mascis - The "no chance we are the same alignment" comment is the shit I'm talking about with pushing the envelope. Don't be a d-bag, and don't do it. Three factions left that just ambiguous enough to not be construed as a claim, but the mod shouldn't have to make that decision especially when it means potentially removing a faction from the game.
  7. 4 points
  8. 4 points
    Scumwood as a backseat moderator was one of the most annoying things ever, especially early wanting modkills from every post - but he was correct in edging me into modkilling JC
  9. 4 points
    No you retard Everyone BUT haz is town Haz is the last scum Seriously if i asked half of you to do "1+1" I swear you'd think for an hour and come up with the answer "egg"
  10. 3 points
    dude above you is 5'3 dont think we can call you a manlet
  11. 3 points
    Because I am God you will learn soon enough
  12. 3 points
    crei your death sucked and if id been awake i wouldve fought vs it but from a scum / hindsight perspective you gotta admit it is pretty fucking funny =')
  13. 3 points
    I think people were pretty mean to me this game
  14. 3 points
    didnt read this, just skimmed
  15. 3 points
    AND I GOT HIM THAT ONE TIME! outplayed imo tbh imo
  16. 3 points
    Acting like faint is ever not town
  17. 3 points
    This about sums it up in a nutshell. it was cool playing with all the OG’s. Also, I’m glad rei invited me back to play and there were genuine moments of hilarity. no hard feelings for anyone
  18. 3 points
    I’m the only neutral allowed to win
  19. 3 points
    *notices sophocles scum game* OwO wut's dis
  20. 3 points
    also can i take a moment to remind everyone wunter is literally our best town player just listen to him for free wins
  21. 3 points
    Jazz asked jc why lfn was confirmed town and jc, in jap characters, reaponds with is a secret. Contrary to what ppl think no claim includes not giving the inference that you are a different role. Jc May as well have hard claimed cop and putting that in kanji to hide it made it worse
  22. 3 points
    Sophocles was scum and could sexually assault people; (Can target a person once per night, if they're a girl they can only post 50 chars outside of their vote each post and have to vote every post)
  23. 2 points
    Update: Good news: I think everyone has paid me except @Joe. and @Pengwan. In terms of payouts, I'm leaning towards this 1st - 160 2nd - 80 3rd - 40. I can pay out to fourth if people like, but if there are no objections, I will use this
  24. 2 points
    If you think, we got no info out of a 14 vote d1 largely split between two players, I don't know what to tell you. There is no merit to that argument. Did we get perfect information? No. But we got info. I don't even know if you voted Soph, but I know you voted Jazz so what's the point of bringing up the Soph vote? Who gives a fuck. That isn't where your vote ended up when you finished for d1. I don't even recall talking about your vote on Soph. My entire argument is that Soph was doing something to help town (vote counts) and had some decent posts showing he actually tried to figure shit out. I never said he was town. I never said we aren't killing him (in fact Im the one who brought up that he could be using vote counts as a way to feign content). All I said is that Soph is in a group of players (him, wunter, solistice) etc . . . and that I 'd rather leave him alive because he was benefitting us over useless players because Soph was trying and can be an asset to town. It's not a .bias. I literally don't give a fuck who I call out and I wasn't the only one to call you out on it this game. I don't think I was even the first frankly because I recall asking why no one was talking about you when people were discussing floaters (which given the players discussed was going around in circles and cluttering the thread) when you had only 1 post for the majority of d1 (which is new info, a deviation, and injected actual life and discussion into town) and then someone quoted me (Jazz) saying that they had. In that same post, I just said I was noting it and that I wasn't overly worried because you had 5 posts to make yourself super apparent town which you are capable of doing. Multiple people (PSK, Jazz, Slick iirc) called you out. So why am I the only one getting shit for it? The past games comment just seems like saliance bias so it's not worth addressing. If you don't take myself and/or other people questioning your alignment seriously, that's on you. Gaia you may not have believed you were in danger of being lynched (and at the time you may not have been), but I can go back itt and quote the confuse rei is off/sus posts. They were there and I wasn't the only one who made them. Again, if you didn't take them seriously, I don't know what to tell you. Wjhy should you have to prove yourself as town/why should you play as strong town? The dick answer to this would be well take a look at what just happened. But in all seriousness, that is the reason. If you project strong town, you don't get lynched. You suspect rei/malcolm/yourself etc . . . - Again, saliance bias. I go after a person because of their play/how I perceive their play (it's the same thing) . Maybe I have a hard time reading you? But again, MULTIPLE PEOPLE SUSPECTED YOU. How many times do I have to say it and/or go back to the thread to quote it before you understand that? So even if things were as you say, your play was at fault for the others. Let's talk about the momentum vote. I recall the vote being 5-3 in favor of Silver dying. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but I think Jazz and slickz vote you up to three and then @Malcolm and @Mascis vote Silver up to 5. ZP voted you and I tied it after failing to convince town to change the lynch to one of my other targets. 1. If you think I have more clout than Malcolm after winter cunterland, you're delusional. 2. Majority vote was on Silver (5-3) and it took multiple votes to switch it late in the phase,, which means that they were agains the tending direction. In regards to other players: They have a brain and can think for themselves. But even assuming they can't, why do you think they followed your lynch? They townread the players voting you and didn't town read you. In regards to making yourself "confirmed" (i'm guessing you mean apparent) town, I hate to break it to you, but it's common knowledge you are a good player as town. Consequently, even if you play scummy as shit, you are still a night kill target. Out of the group you listed, I don't think the play even matters. Assuming no heals, rei is always dying first, then you and then Malcolm (heal dodging may change the order). Being confirmed town is irrelevant there because confirmed town isn't always a threat. If we confirmed wunter/solistice/wheover as town,. mafia would still probably leave them alive because they aren't a threat. THREATS TO SCUM ARE WHAT END UP GETTING KILLED. That being said, being an asset to town typically does not entitle you to a day pass. The only player who gets that is rei because he can literally end the game on day 1 (and you know for a fact that even then I am willing to kill him on d1 if he isn't trying). If you play scummy, people will suspect you're liable ot be lynched. Seriously, my activity has never ever been a problem in any game I have ever played in on this site. But if I meet quota early because of work and tell town I am doing that, it doesn't even take one page before some dumbfuck suspects that I am going to disappear for the day despite my history and despite the fact that I have gone on record multiple times as stating that floating does not help you as either alignment. I didn't have you as the worst player to me on day 1 (Walia - who town should have killed 200x over). My vote wasn't even on you until it was either you or silver (and like I said, if it came down to that my vote was going on you) and that was because I hard town read Silver (Guess what I was right!!!). Where did I say I got better or am god's gift to mafia. Please quote it.
  25. 2 points
    I barely dodged your terrible questions. I would point out mascis as town or scum. I’m sorry I think on a much higher plane Paranoid players suspect me in every single game I play and it is always the same ones that do it. This happens to ash and it happens to stefanos as well. I don’t have the luxury of being townread for playing like a psychotic moron like some players do.
  26. 2 points
  27. 2 points
    just stop playing like scum smh
  28. 2 points
    Defenitly fun game though. Good to see such a large group play here
  29. 2 points
  30. 2 points
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/gZbDAkCVnk8
  31. 2 points
    also shoutouts for making me shit fucking india fucking racist
  32. 2 points
  33. 2 points
    @Jazz @BuildTheWalia @Gospel @Joe. @slickz @Pengwan Saturday August 18th work for everyone?
  34. 1 point
    Props for "winter cunterland" :')
  35. 1 point
    that reminds me best post in the thread lmaooo
  36. 1 point
    I like how Underwood has tried to logically explain my kill like forty times when the only thing that is to be said is 'dgz town can't read for shit' and move on Malcolm played one of his better games as scum and people( = same like three people) still suspected him because they suspect him every game Less drama more thinking You punk ass bitches
  37. 1 point
    Confirming one town in a non claiming game vs trying to stop all nightkil is kinda a misplay
  38. 1 point
    You made the right choice with the N1 heal. Always heal the easy town read who has a power. Soph didnt get tunneled due to vote counts (if that were the case Jazz would have been tunneled too). He got tunneled for vote counts with weak play overall. Only reason Jazz didnt get the same read was he went full on Jazz. This is the exact type of thing we want to discourage. You had a shit game. So what? Get over it, it's not a big deal. You have some constructive criticism from post game (which is really what post game is for). Take it and apply it. DG makes too much of trust list = scum, but there is something to that read. A player who feels like they have to comment on everyone typically doesn't take a hard stance on anyone. PSK, myself, and Slickz didnt out reads on the entire game. We outed reads and avenues we thought town should be pursuing. We were all easily town read because town knew exactly where we stood, what are agendas were, and why we had those agendas. Regardless of whether we agreed with each other, we at least made it very clear why we had the reads we did which made us transparent. Adjust your posting accordingly. I bolded the parts of your post that were necessary. If you remove most of the non-bolded the post much more clear and quickly conveys the most important information you want us to know. Take that approach to the trust lists (I am null on X is useless. If you are null on them, don't even mention them unless you are trying to get them killed) and longer posts you make.
  39. 1 point
    You were part of the problem. Yes I did something to purposely harm my faction but consider how I was driven to that point in the first place. Being repeatedly called bad and told that I can’t read when all I’m trying to do is put effort into the game and contribute, is not cool.
  40. 1 point
    On the first half of the day i was just legit trying to spread posi vibes and I legit was keeping vote counts 'cause rei wasn't doing any, not to fit in. Not to be all 'caught for the wrong reason' but my annoyance about being called out over that was not feigned. Day 2 I think I did well up until we decided to try to save ZP, which was probably objectively the wrong play but it was the most interesting play. Also after that horrendous crei lynch D1 I thought that'd be an easy switch lol, thought wrong.
  41. 1 point
    Yea I’m a mod now. Warning point for not saying winter is coming
  42. 1 point
    When it says "Oracle scanned someone and prevented any nks with best girl ability" after I get best girl and most of town are questioning after I vote someone saying they are scum then Jesus fucking christ
  43. 1 point
    ok so we have 2 elements here... number 1 is you have a girl with baggage ongoing. IMO.. the healthiest balance to this is understand you are both on 2 different separate journys. she has to learn to deal with her own shit... sure u can help her with her demons a bit by supporting her but you should no where ever be her "rock".. she should be her own rock. if you ever become that, then this relationship is just going to end horribly. number 2 is you have issues with people's pasts which you need to get over. firstly everyone makes mistakes and you shouldn't judge or dredge up their past. if you're too insecure and can't manage to see the person infront of you rather than the person they once were... dating is going to be hard for you. its like dating an awesome girls who in the past has taken 30 dicks.. u just gotta let it go. talking about this situation specifically.. u describe her as "decently attractive".. i dont get the vibe you're in love with this girl or even remotely even interested deep down in falling in love with her. you are new to the town, don't have many friends and you've settled with this girl. if im wrong, then correct me.. but if this is the case, then shes going to suck out a lot of time and oppurtunity where you could be meeting MANY different types of people.. one of which maybe you will really like and see a future with.
  44. 1 point
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  47. 1 point
    Good thing I eat the weed last night or I am passed away Unvote soph vote soph
  48. 1 point
    mascis if you wish to create winter wunterland 2.0 you need to listen to me
  49. 1 point
    Also yeah being a wind is bad. He could have won our game 1 in round 1 because he had a sorc to summon but he had no darks in the grave, just a sam
  50. 1 point
    This is possibly the worst topic I have ever seen on this website
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