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Jazz

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  1. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Disagree. This helps scum hunt power roles and confuses the rest of town about who else is town.
  2. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    I also think it’s wrong not to project strong town whenever you roll town. It’s definitely -EV. The only reason not to do it is to muddle the contrast with your scum game to boost your scum game. Or, selfishly, to survive later into the game as town so you can be a hero. Strong town means doctor/watcher can recognize you as town and use their abilities on you more profitably. Strong town means cop/tracker/vigilante can recognize you as town and not waste their abilities on you. Strong town means weaker town players can process the game more easily and make better decisions and project town better themselves. Strong town means you drown out the influence of scum and get more control over the lynch. Strong town means one less person in the mislynch pool and one more NK scum has to make. It is literally your win condition.
  3. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Saying we got no info out of the lynch is wrong. We caught ZP hopping onto it and lynched him the next day. We caught malcolm refusing to make a comment on you. We caught hazmah pretending to care about the game but ignoring the relevant topics toward the end of day. Soph was asleep. And we knew who town!crei wanted dead. Hardly a wasted day. You’re a bit full of yourself.
  4. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Ehh 44 hours is a stretch considering you basically took the first 24 hours off. I am pretty sure I did voice my concerns but that's beside the point. At the end of that day phase we wanted to abort the silver lynch, we had mascis pegged for neutral, and slick+underwood+I had no other overlapping scum read except for you. It was really a fluke thing and I think you're making it out to be more than it is. It will probably never happen again on this forum. I'm not saying it's bad to peg mascis as neutral. What I'm saying is it looks like perfect info to peg a neutral. He knows the scum team, it makes it that much easier to peg a sketchy non-scum as the neutral. BTW I've played one game where you were scum and it was alignment conversion. Not sure it counts. I've played one other game besides this one where we were both town and I ended up working with you for a phase but you got NK'd (it was a JC game).
  5. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    lol I asked you a simple question and you couldn't answer it
  6. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    I'll admit I made a mistake. I wasn't sure on your alignment (had you as like 50/50) and I should have let it sit for a phase. From my perspective, you died from a combination of group think and defending mascis. I actually think it was fine, just unfortunate. I hope there's no hard feelings. The time zone thing sucks but it's part of the game--I don't think it's fair to say we should never lynch someone who is AFK, especially in a no claim game. Days shouldn't be scheduled to end that late for europeans anyway--it's a clear disadvantage. Malcolm rightly deserved suspicion this game for liberally tossing shade, pegging mascis as neutral, and dodging questions. I'm not sure how you ever had him as solid town. If the "mafia gods" don't want to be suspected they can project town better. I suspect Malcolm most games because he plays scummy most games. I suspect you most games because your scum game is almost perfect, and the difference between it and your town game is very subtle. What am I supposed to do about that, huh? In the future, I'll give additional consideration to handing out day passes (I actually gave one to JC this game), but I still think it's correct to vocally suspect good players when they're not making sense (your mascis defense) or not being fully transparent (malcolm's play).
  7. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

    I vote no bonus points. I like FAAB. I dislike allowing 8/12 teams to make the playoffs. I like byes.
  8. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    My read was mostly affected by my initial impression from your day 1. You began posting with 3/4 of the day gone by, voted an obvious town leader in Francis, then bandwagoned townish silver. Furthermore other strong towns scum read you (crei, francis, psk), this also made me wary. Psk even voted you on day 2. It took me most of day 2 to see that you were hunting actual scum, like malcolm. By the post when you pointed out how haz reminded you of how you used to play scum, I figured you were town. Your slow start (tm) definitely hurt. I know you were acting a bit shady to protect an ability but I believe the strongest ability one can have in any mafia game is the ability to remove oneself from the mislynch pool by projecting town.
  9. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Like good for you, Slick, you were right on soph. But why the fuck does that matter? You didn’t have to shit on me because I was wrong on one player and because I had a different point of view than you in a game. Did I shit on everyone who town read hazmah? Fuck no. I understand that I’m playing with other humans. You don’t have any right to tell me to “fuck off even more” in dead chat because I was wrong on someone’s alignment in a damn mafia game. Get off your high horse, you pompous ass.
  10. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    I’m not justifying shit. Slicks just a shit starter.
  11. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    You were part of the problem. Yes I did something to purposely harm my faction but consider how I was driven to that point in the first place. Being repeatedly called bad and told that I can’t read when all I’m trying to do is put effort into the game and contribute, is not cool.
  12. persona 5 mafia aftergame

    Suck my dick
  13. The Official DG 2018 Fantasy Football Thread

    prefer a weekday but what time on saturday?
  14. i'll take the mod kill, i don't want to play
  15. actually fuck this game, have fun on your own
  16. why don't you contribute something useful to the game instead of stating the obvious
  17. Idk why are you so impossible to work with?
  18. Ok but I’m correct you haven’t given a reason for this? I just don’t want to take anything for granted and leave any stones unturned. Feels like we just started calling him town without much discussion
  19. Actually id like to discussion this. Why are you so sure LFN is town? I don’t recall you providing a solid reason. I’ve given more reason as to why I think soph is town than you think LFN is town I think if you look at LFN’s game there is a case to be made that he’s scum. He hasn’t been doing a whole lot of solving. He was on the wrong side of the ZP lynch and was part of Malcolm’s ploy that ZP was scanned. It’s something they could have concocted in the QT/discord together. I also recall a few attempts he made to toss some light/medium shade on a few players who were easy targets. Wunter and mascis stick out in particular. I can’t remember what his thoughts were on others specifically, but there was one point where he listed like 8 people for scum and it set off a red flag because that’s a long list. Wunter would remember the post because he highlighted it at the time His entire game could be replicated by a really top notch scum player. As of now the best thing LFN has going for him is that he posts fluidly and other scum players (malcolm) have interacted with him in a way that makes him seem more town. I don’t think this is definitive proof that he’s town by any means I see a possibility there and I think it should be revisited if he’s alive at lylo/later days unless we get more information that makes him confirmed town or something.
  20. I don’t need to argue with you and derail the thread. I think you’re scum. You ostensibly think I’m scum, there’s no reconciliation at this point and it would simply distract people from finding the rest of the scum team.
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