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  1. NHL 2015-2016 Season Thread

    crazy day. big deal for flyers too
  2. Official 2015-2016 NFL Season Thread

    yeah, being a pats fan I agree w/ joe. Never seen them look this vulnerable in all my years cheering for them.   That said the AFC is so weak I still have them as the faves to get to the superbowl, but theyre just gonna be in such tough water vs carolina/arizona/seattle (one of these teams is almost for sure going to be nfc rep imo) Teams who really scare me fwiw are KC and thats really it in the afc. Maybe denver on the road simply bc of that defense, but its not really that big of a deal. edit: also couldnt agree more about GB looking like the worst playoff team (or one of them). wouldnt be surprised at all if they lost to WAS
  3.   that doesnt prove or disprove anything. at this ppint im better off debating w/ a wall. atleast it would remain silent and make less of an ass of itself.   There's zero burden on me to prove x y z deck is bad for the format, simply to bring up reasons for why the format is better without them. There's a difference, and I've named several (to recap they reduce skill edge by increasing variance, also take up side decking slots unnecessarily which prevents side deck creativity/maneuverability. Additionally almost everyone would agree they're much less fun to play or play against.)   also lol @ you thinking the mirror is "by definition 50/50". The entire reason that goat format is so popular is because the opposite is true, and there is a definitive skill advantage for the better player in mirrors. I'm wondering at this point if you've ever played this format   [color=red]You've brought up zero reasons why the format is better off without them. Your entire argument can be distilled into "let's ban these decks because I don't like them."[/color]   I don't think you understand what variance means. Say I'm playing goat control, you're playing burn, and I know there is an 80% chance that I will beat you in a 2/3 match. How exactly is that high variance? That is the definition of low variance, because I am very confident that I am are going to win.    Saying they are "less fun" is pure opinion, and it's a hilarious statement coming from the guy who claims to have an objective argument. In a tournament setting, I think its's more fun to not know what you're going to play against very round. But that's just like, my opinion, man.   If you were to ban all of the gimmick decks, and everyone just played goats, there would a little to no reason for a sidedeck at all. You'd be stupid to side cards for the goat mirror, because if every match was a goat mirror, you should just be maining those cards instead. It's trivially obvious that one deck formats are the ones that least utilize someone's sidedeck skills.   Mirror is by definition 50/50. Matchups don't take into account player skill. So a goat mirror is going to be 50/50 (because we're not assuming anything about player skill), whereas any matchup between me and you would probably be about 90/10, my favor. I know it's a complicated distinction. Don't think about it too hard.   But hey, at this point you're obviously mad, so let's just end the argument. None of us are little bitches, so we're not banning OTKs. The argument was settled years ago when the adults got together and had a rational discussion about the pros and cons of doing so.   not even going to read the rest if youre not capable of reading what Ive posted. Just agree to disagree if youre that short sighted.   merry christmas
  4. ofcourse it does. You're implying that by making (even small) changes to the format we're at risk of disturbing the balance in the format. All I've been saying is that the format is more balanced with these decks being taken out.   Goat format is the most popular format because it is widely considered the be the most skill intensive, and the most fun. This is why it has such a strong following relative to any other past format. I think that the saying "don't fix what isn't broken" kind of applies here, which is why I would prefer to play goats than the "newgioh", that being said I think that limiting the amount of otk/burn/gimmick decks certainly reduces the variance and makes skill a more relevant factor in winning/losing.   Also it makes sense to mention that it very well may be a moot point entirely, as I don't think the dgz members as a whole (or any decent player really) are going to be running a bunch of burn or whatever.
  5. just read the whole thread. also really agree w/ gorz. havent been following anything yugioh for a long time so alot of the newer cards are somewhat lost on me, however i definitely want to give the "newgioh" list a try. Looks cool
  6. YATA!   jokes aside we actually played a bunch of matches with yata in this format and its not that busted.
  7. NHL 2015-2016 Season Thread

    hahaha
  8.   that doesnt prove or disprove anything. at this ppint im better off debating w/ a wall. atleast it would remain silent and make less of an ass of itself.   There's zero burden on me to prove x y z deck is bad for the format, simply to bring up reasons for why the format is [i]better[/i] without them. There's a difference, and I've named several (to recap they reduce skill edge by increasing variance, also take up side decking slots unnecessarily which prevents side deck creativity/maneuverability. Additionally almost everyone would agree they're much less fun to play or play against.)   also lol @ you thinking the mirror is "by definition 50/50". The entire reason that goat format is so popular is because the opposite is true, and there is a definitive skill advantage for the better player in mirrors. I'm wondering at this point if you've ever played this format
  9. NHL 2015-2016 Season Thread

    flyers finally starting to put some wins together. Ever since ghost got the call up theyve been buzzing. Hopeful for a playoff run now, whereas 2 months ago I was ready to #tankforauston
  10.   i dont think you understand the word objective.   and your last comment re: gimmicky decks reducing variance is obviously wrong and lacks any basis. Most of the gimmick decks that im referring to have a decided advantage game one versus other "standard" decks. I don't see how it's difficult to understand how these decks do nothing but increase variance, while also reducing the amount of side deck creativity as so many of our side slots will now be taken up to prevent losses to said decks.       If you ban certain decks from being played you're removing how historically accurate your tournament is nearly to the point where you couldn't even call it a past format but rather a custom one.  I understand and agree with less variance being associated with competitiveness - I think that's a given.  However, you cannot immediately jump from competitive to it being enjoyable because that's (of course) extremely subjective.    I think you're oversimplifying the "side deck argument" as well.  You should absolutely be skilled enough in being able to accurately adjust your deck between games 1 and 2.  Again, removing this component means the tournament would not be a "past format" tournament, but rather a custom one.  The side deck was an incredibly important part of Goat Control.     Ofcourse side decking is important. What I don't understand is how allowing gimmick decks increases the skill aspect of side decking. Keeping decks such as burn fusion etc essentially forces everyone else to allocate several side deck spots in the same way in order to counter a specific deck type. As a result, everyone will be simply side decking a bunch of cards in common to help prevent losses to these decks, when instead all 15 slots could be used more efficiently (which would result in more side deck diversity, as your side decking less for specific deck matchups, and more specific card/situations).   Secondly, I might be alone here, but I don't think it's necessary to be playing an "authentic" format. Part of this process is to realize where ude made errors and allow for format changes to increase the quality of the game.Obviously with us being the players who actually have a bunch of experience with the format, its no surprise that were in the best position to be critical and evaluate the format and make changes to better the game. (good example of this is perovics changes on goat format that he blogged about).   I guess what Im getting at is there's no need for us to be "authentic" to that exact ban list if its just for the purpose of being "authentic".
  11. Official 2015-2016 NFL Season Thread

    While i initially agree, lack of attention to jax is prob the reason Dont kno the stats either, but im sure jax having an awful pass d leading to more volume and inflated stats may be a reason for the coaches aspect     Averaging 16.5 YPC, fewest catches among the Pro Bowl nominated WRs, and Jacksonville is 10th in attempts per game (Detroit, New York, Atlanta, and Houston are all higher volume passing offenses). So volume can't be an excuse. The only real "reason" that we hear from a lot of veteran players is [b]"you have to do it for more than one year", which is stupid, [/b]because it becomes a double standard when Gurley and Butler get in off solid years, but guys like Robinson and Avril don't. Robinson also leads the league in 20+ yard receptions with 26 (second place Antonio Brown has 21), so yeah, he's extremely dynamic, had a sensational year, and got snubbed.   amen. So stupid.
  12. one of the benefits of playing past formats is that we can be objective and try to figure out ways to optimize it to create the best competitive and enjoyable environment. It's pretty clear to me that gimmicky decks do nothing to achieve either of those. Falling back on "side deck for them" as an argument isn't really valid, as regardless of your side deck choices to counter x y or z deck, allowing these decks will always increase the variance dramatically in any given event which should be the exact opposite of our goal
  13. Official 2015-2016 NFL Season Thread

    cant agree more that robinson snub is a complete joke
  14. sounds like its christmas eve and you havent done your christmas shopping yet. Either that or you have a sub 70 iq, either way it's not too compelling
  15. Couldnt agree more, would love to participate in that.   should ban all gimmicky otks/burn though We've had this conversation a million times and the consensus is they should be allowed. Especially if we are playing a non-single elim tournament or best of 5. 1. Rewards lost art of good siding 2. Keeps side decks honest and diverse 3. Keeps goat control in check, though still quite dominant 4. Spurs innovation   theres only one legitimate argument here in my opinion, and its not nearly strong enough to justify allowing gimmick decks.
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