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What's better than a Gideon on curve? A Gideon on Turn 3.

 

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... which is already possible with a servant go the conduit on 2.

 

Don't get me wrong I'm excited for this card, it'll sometimes do just that, it'll sometime's be a thalias lt that doesn't block.   I think what's more important than the dream scenarios is you get the utility that it's decent early and late game.

 

GW Humans is already playable at the moment and I'd be surprised if this didn't mean GW tokens was coming back especially since they have vehicles to benefit from now as well.

 

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Scenario:

t1: Thraben

t2: Heart of kiran, attack with thraben for 1  - (19 life) (2 lands 2 creatures)

t3: Nissa, tick up for plant, tick down to animate kiran and swing with thraben + kiran - (14 life) (3 lands, 1 planeswalker, 3 creatures, can tick down nissa to protect nissa with kiran following turn or chump block with plant)

t4: Gideon, make knight.  tick down gideon, animate kiran.  tick up nissa, plant.  attack with thraben + kiran  - (9 life) (4 lands, 2 planeswalkers, potential of 5 creatures, and still with the ability to protect the planeswalkers)

 

It really seems as though there is some potential here.  You can replace thraben with toolcraft exemplar, heart with either copter or oath of ajani, and you achieve many different positive board states.

 

The biggest reason why GW tokens died out last format was because the only flier GW had to block opposing fliers was Archangel Avacyn.  Spell queller and smuggler's copter introduced some real threats into the metagame that threatened planeswalkers.  Having smuggler's copter of our own OR heart of kiran allows the deck to have some fliers early on to fill both roles, aggression and protecting the walkers.  The manabase for a GW deck is not super complicated, the GW colors has large card quality.

 

Call me crazy, but i think this could be a real thing.  Either that, or I really just want to try and force GW, which is also a possiblity.  Hopefully there will be more tools in Aether revolt that allow this deck to be a real contender.

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I think that's definitely a real deck. Heart of Kiran into a Planeswalker is just stupid.

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My biggest concern with this type of strategy are emrakul + K-return decks.  having the board swept, then our turn taken from us is not a fun scenario to be in.  Maybe something like sigarda could prevent emrakul cast triggers?

 

also, I don't know what the removal suite would look like.  Stasis snare seems great, that three mana cmc is costly thought because this type of deck wants to keep deploying things on its own turn.  Dec in stone is also a decent removal spell.

 

Side note, something like Tireless tracker could allow GW games to go long.  We have Gisela and bruna, avacyn, sylvan advocates, servant, lambolt pacifist...There are so many cards that could fit into a 75 in these colors, we'd have to figure out exactly which ones are necessary vs which ones aren't.  I'll be going into the tank beginning of January to test this type of strategy.  I'm planning on going to the SCG open in richmond at the end of January, so hopefully we will know if something like this is viable by then.  My guess is that it won't be, but it won't stop people from trying.

 

I really liked the previous GW deck, would love to go back to playing it again.  I know @Darthflaw doesn't want GW mirrors to be a thing again, and I agree with him by the fact of that format not being the healthiest in the world.

 

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Just pre-ordered the stuff for this deck.

 

4 Glint-Nest Crane


4 Aetherflux Reservoir

4 Bone Saw

4 Cathar's Shield

1 Implement of Examination

1 Ornithopter

1 Prophetic Prism

4 Renegade Map

 

4 Anticipate

4 Metallic Rebuke
4 Paradoxical Outcome

2 Reverse Engineer

4 Whir of Invention


19 Island

 

I'm still messing with the numbers and Baral's Expertise (it can return your own stuff, or a combination), but I think this has the potential to be really strong. With a good hand you can win on turn 4, you have some game one interaction with Crane and Rebuke, and any midrange matchup seems incredibly easy.

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