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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
Depends what zone we wanna go with, too - bathyal is less deep than abyssal, which is itself less deep than hadal.

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Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that I liked depths because it also conveniently ends in "s", allowing one to keep the abyss puns.

But whatever works.

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~Ryusui~    17
Sitting here, I suspect the TCG will probably add some extra qualifier rather than dispense with "Abyss" entirely - it's in the name of the set, after all. Like "Abyss[something]."

God, why did it [i]not[/i] occur to me until reading this just what a huge can of worms this opened? -_-;

[b]EDIT:[/b] If I were to invent something out of whole cloth, mind, the term "Deepdweller" just now occurred to me.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
So, we've got a hugeass snafu on our hands

lemme go chronicle the issue in detail.

OCG cards with "[size=2]アビス" in their names:[/size]
Abyss Soldier
Silent Abyss
Shining Abyss
Gishki Abyss
+ 9 cards on the OCG Wiki from Abyss Rising
+ the name of the Set itself

This establishes the precedent of [b]アビス[/b] = abyss


TCG cards with "Abyss" in their names
Abyss Soldier
Silent Abyss
Shining Abyss
Gishki Abyss
Abyssal Kingshark
Barrier Statue of the Abyss
Abyssal Designator
Dark King of the Abyss
Contract with the Abyss
Diabolos, King of the Abyss


Yeah "Abyss" is a no-go. We've got more cards in the TCG that violate the kana than use the kana.

How can we write this sort of thing into the cards and effects in question?

Thanks to Magical Hats converting monsters into STs, and countless effects converting STs into monsters, we can't just ignore the potential for a non-Abyss monster to start looking like an "Abyss" Spell or Trap - or vice versa.


Should we just go with a new title, and then write "these four cards belong to the new title?"



And which new title should we go with?
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~Deadborder~    5156
Well, to start off, I think you've switched things up - Magical Hats turns STs into monsters, not the other way around.

So far I too am a fan of Depths having come to the conclusion coincidentally. We have one other card - The Dragon Dwelling in the Depths - that shares a name.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
Let's do our best to make something that doesn't match up, rather than something that matches up with anything.

For this purpose, I'd hope we could avoid "Depth/s".

So, we have needs here:

1) "Not Abyss"
2) Ends in S
3) "Not Depths" thanks to current users


"Deeps" has the same Old English root as "Depths", but "Deeps" is stolen by "Deepsea" monsters.

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~NeoArkadia~    2794
Oceanus to counter the Atlanteans having Poseidra? But that seems silly. ... my only other suggestion is go with [url="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bathy-"]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bathy-[/url] Bathys.
Also, stuff:

Weekly Jump:
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120601/10/558749282012060110463208.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...60110463208.jpg[/url]
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120601/10/5587492820120601104546022.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...01104546022.jpg[/url]

Saikyo Jump:
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120603/18/5587492820120603182157021.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...03182157021.jpg[/url]
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120603/18/5587492820120603182300019.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...03182300019.jpg[/url]
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120603/18/5587492820120603182325056.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...03182325056.jpg[/url]
[url="http://img13.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20120603/18/5587492820120603182239065.jpg"]http://img13.poco.cn...03182239065.jpg[/url]

I think...

Monshoujyuu Bern(a/e)r(d)'s Falcon
Heraldric Beast Bernar's Falcon
4 Stars/WIND/Winged Beast-Type - Effect/1000 ATK/1600 DEF
When you Summon this monster: You can have all Level 5 or higher monsters you currently control become Level 4.

Planet Pathfinder
4 Stars/EARTH/Machine-Type - Effect/1000 ATK/1000 DEF
You can Tribute this card; add 1 Field Spell Card from your Deck to your hand.

Zekkai no Kishi
4 Stars/WATER/Warrior-Type - Effect/1400 ATK/1200 DEF
Once per turn, when this face-up card changes battle positions: You can send 1 WATER monster from your Deck to the Graveyard.

Zekkai is dictionarily defined as "Seas far away from land, extremely deep water" or "distant seas".


Snowman Creator
4 Stars/WATER/Machine-Type - Effect/1600 ATK/1000 DEF
When this card is Summoned: Place Ice Counters on monsters your opponent controls equal to the number of WATER monsters you control, then if 3 or more Ice Counters are placed by this effect, you can destroy 1 card your opponent controls.

Abyss Warrior
4 Stars/WATER/Aqua-Type - Effect/1800 ATK/1300 DEF
Once per turn: Discard 1 WATER monster to target 1 monster in any Graveyard; place that target on either the top or the bottom of the owner's Deck.
(I'm probably cocking this one up)

Mermail - Abysslung
4 Stars/WATER/Fish-Type - Effect/1200 ATK/1800 DEF
Other WATER monsters cannot be targeted for an attack. WATER monsters gain 300 ATK.

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The only issues lie with the S/Ts, keeping Abyss on the monsters in a no-brainer. That being said, my only idea is Depths, I don't mind if you don't like it though, just as long as we come up with something not absolutely contrived and sound like doing it for the sake of doing it.

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-yzan424-    4
Sorry I didn't notice this thread going on at all due to my busy schedule dealing with finals............ My apologies. But I was under the impression that we only start translating sets after their official release?

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~Neonian~    376
[quote name='NeoArkadia' timestamp='1338824158' post='3198804']
So, kind of was pointed out to me, Shark's Chaos Number might be Shark Drake [i]Weiss[/i]. Yay gratuitous German?
[/quote]
It would make more sense considering It is white...

"Vice" just sort of came out of nowhere.

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~Ryusui~    17
[quote name='Neonian' timestamp='1338838184' post='3198968']
It would make more sense considering It is white...

"Vice" just sort of came out of nowhere.
[/quote]

[url="http://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=weiss"]http://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=weiss[/url]

There are several ways "weiss" is written in katakana; mainly ワイス and ヴァイス, unfortunately. I like your theory, though.

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~NeoArkadia~    2794
[quote][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]"Vice" just sort of came out of nowhere.[/quote][/size][/font]

[font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Vice Dragon and Clear Vice Dragon have the same Katakana. However, Konami really loves bending [i]Baisu[/i] like the dickens. [/size][/font]

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~ness00~    1013
Since 17 was not "Vice" (or Levi's), I say we go with German.

And then it'll be C32: Great White Shark.

Because Yubel #2 and #3.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
[quote name='Dark Evangel' timestamp='1338799789' post='3198697']
The only issues lie with the S/Ts, keeping Abyss on the monsters in a no-brainer. That being said, my only idea is Depths, I don't mind if you don't like it though, just as long as we come up with something not absolutely contrived and sound like doing it for the sake of doing it.
[/quote]

We don't know the contents of the entire set yet, right?

I'm mostly pushing so that we don't get caught with our pants down - this would be an excellent time for an "Abyss monster" support to come along.

At that point, Magical Hats screws it all up for us.

Or, well, if something works with Abyss STs on the field, rather than Abyss STs in the Deck, that'd mess us up too.

Point is, lots of ways for it to go wrong if Abyss is left on the mons and something comes along to partner with Megalo.

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[quote name='NeoArkadia' timestamp='1338824158' post='3198804']
So, kind of was pointed out to me, Shark's Chaos Number might be Shark Drake [i]Weiss[/i]. Yay gratuitous German?
[/quote]

Yeah sorry I keep doing things unilaterally on Pojo and forget to mention it to you guys. Weiss makes far more sense and I'm behind it 100%.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
We know you gotta go troll the OCGland, it's 'coo

Also, Weiss works. Any challenges?

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~ness00~    1013
Weiss works, but I don't see them keeping a German word, like with the Yubels. I know there are some cases like Evocator Chevalier, or Fleur Synchron, but I'm guessing they'll just go with "White".

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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
Aye, but that didn't stop us from calling Yubel "Das Extremer Traurig Drachen"

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~Ryusui~    17
[quote name='Pharaoh Atem' timestamp='1338956596' post='3200240']
We know you gotta go troll the OCGland, it's 'coo

Also, Weiss works. Any challenges?
[/quote]

Like I said, my research indicates "Weiss" is usually written ワイス or ヴァイス. That doesn't mean I don't think it sounds awesome, but the precedent is sketchy.

Oh, and for the record, I did once suggest that 希望皇ホープレイ was meant to be read as 希望皇ホープ零 (i.e. "Utopia Zero") or as a portmanteau of ホープ and プレイ, so I'm no stranger to non-obvious interpretations of Chaos Numbers. :3

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[quote name='Ryusui' timestamp='1339106372' post='3201947']
[quote name='Pharaoh Atem' timestamp='1338956596' post='3200240']
We know you gotta go troll the OCGland, it's 'coo

Also, Weiss works. Any challenges?
[/quote]

Like I said, my research indicates "Weiss" is usually written ワイス or ヴァイス. That doesn't mean I don't think it sounds awesome, but the precedent is sketchy.

Oh, and for the record, I did once suggest that 希望皇ホープレイ was meant to be read as 希望皇ホープ零 (i.e. "Utopia Zero") or as a portmanteau of ホープ and プレイ, so I'm no stranger to non-obvious interpretations of Chaos Numbers. :3
[/quote]
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9

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~Ryusui~    17
I stand corrected.

[b]EDIT:[/b] Also, my "rename the non-conforming Abyss monsters and reprint them" theory just gained a bit of ground. "Pigeonholing Books of Spell" got reprinted in Haunted Mine...as [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spellbook_Organization"]"Spellbook Organization."[/url]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eVi-3bwG0I[/media]
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»Pharaoh Atem    15751
Evening, everyone.

The scan flood has begun!

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