Dragon Rulers - Discussion

[harig07 2058]

I guess regardless of what the correct answer is it's one to check with the Head Judge of an event you go to just in case they rule it differently.

[DarthChocoboz 292]

I'm pretty sure I remember reading about this ruling change in Julia's Facebook group. You can't activate infantrys effect in the hand anymore so I'm fairly sure it's the same as the dragons and they%

[Keitzo 33]

Because the hand isn't public knowledge. It's not applicable here where the dragons are still within public knowledge. 902 already covered it.

[Crutches 772]

Blue Eyes version has been testing nuts for me, once you cut out the stuff like Shrine, Cry, and maximize the speed.

[Sanjura 6663]

Like Cry isn't even that bad, it's pretty good for dodging Vanity as others stated or making 2 synchros at once, but just being able to plop a 3k beater on the field that requires removal/Star Eater to kill is ridiculous. The Vanity argument is just an added bonus.

[+scuzzlebutt]

If I'm not mistaken, you should also be able to use cry to recover from opposing Bladers if you set it and they somehow blader over one of your things, you flip it at the endphase and have a 3k thing next turn to kill blader and not die next turn. I think this has come up once in my games, it doesn't seem like it'd happen a lot but it's another cool fringe application of the card

[Crutches 772]

I guess I meant to say multiples of Cry, I've been running 1.

[Brian Clark 430]

I have been drawing really well with this version.The one thing I want is to add skilldrain / pwwb but the reckless + car-d openings are just so nuts. 

have you considered playing gaios? it seems like you have space in your extra and it could potentially come up 

[»ygo duelist bodan]

^uhhhhh

[Lord_Teets 47]

This is where I'm at right now BEWD Rulers

 

Surprisingly it's been running pretty smoothly, and of course there have been the occasional dead hands with 1 or 2 BEWD but that changes a turn or 2 later.

[»ygo duelist bodan]

also lol if you run a build with ccd you need to either run

 

multiple hand traps

 

or

 

multiple traps

 

your extra deck looks like straight ass btw

[+scuzzlebutt]

I guess I meant to say multiples of Cry, I've been running 1.

oh, yeah, i'm at 1 too

also lol if you run a build with ccd you need to either run
 
multiple hand traps
 
or
 
multiple traps
 
your extra deck looks like straight ass btw

homie he got maxx and scarecrow in there

[»Paraliel]

^uhhhhh

Im pretty sure his point was there's room and he runs a lot of Redox fodder. Unsure if I agree or not.

[Brian Clark 430]

^uhhhhh

were you referring to my post? I think considering he's not running debris he has extra slots and he is also running some heavy ratios he is sure to cut that gaios could be a reasonable inclusion in his extra.

[IonCharge 691]

He also has D.D.R. to make it. 

[CheeseCake 2513]

its still worse than like every other card in his extra idk about anyone else but I am rarely in such a commanding position where i can tidal and redox another tidal and make a gaios. If I can do that I am probably either winning that turn or already have the nuts and are not going to lose the game regardless.

[»Pengwan]

Forgive my ignorance since I've been out of the loop for awhile, but why would you play the BEWD build if you aren't going to max Shrine? That card seems ridiculous and the main reason you would consider going the BEWD route since it's an auto 2 Dragons + a BEWD or a missing color but it doesn't seem like anybody itt is using 3.

[Brian Clark 430]

its still worse than like every other card in his extra idk about anyone else but I am rarely in such a commanding position where i can tidal and redox another tidal and make a gaios. If I can do that I am probably either winning that turn or already have the nuts and are not going to lose the game regardless.

well yeah but his build in particular was running alot of extra crap in his extra I figured he might have space for gaios. its obviously very situational but it has its uses suggesting it for that build in particular did not seem that wild to me considering its not unreasonable to make it. also one situation that could come up is using double tidal to attack for game then getting swifted at that point the option of going into gaios is nice. its not going to fit into most extras but he was running a ddr alot of earths and no debris meaning there just might be a slot for gaios somewhere in that extra.

[Lord_Teets 47]

Forgive my ignorance since I've been out of the loop for awhile, but why would you play the BEWD build if you aren't going to max Shrine? That card seems ridiculous and the main reason you would consider going the BEWD route since it's an auto 2 Dragons + a BEWD or a missing color but it doesn't seem like anybody itt is using 3.

yes i think you're right...i'll be replacing the trade-ins for Dragon Shrines and testing that.

[Blacklisted 1330]

Do BEWD builds use any Rank 8's at all ?

 

In the chance they can make it?

[Lord_Teets 47]

^Heliopolis...

 

i feel as if ddr is almost mandatory in BEWD builds...

[bluestar899 84]

Forgive my ignorance since I've been out of the loop for awhile, but why would you play the BEWD build if you aren't going to max Shrine? That card seems ridiculous and the main reason you would consider going the BEWD route since it's an auto 2 Dragons + a BEWD or a missing color but it doesn't seem like anybody itt is using 3.

 

Personally I'd rather run Ravine for its ability to not only put Dragons into the graveyard like Shrine but also to add a Corsesca to the hand and remove opposing Field Spells like Ravine and Spellbook Tower.

 

 

Do BEWD builds use any Rank 8's at all ?

 

In the chance they can make it?

 

Yes.  The deck runs at the very least Heliopolis and you can also put in Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon (he does create some interesting gameshots if you know the opponent has a card on the field that'll activate upon hitting the graveyard like any Madolche monster).  I've toyed around with Gimmick Puppet Giant Grinder but dropped it to fit in BRD.  Once Divine Knight Felgrand comes I'm going to have to cut something to fit him in.  Card is bonkers.

[Blacklisted 1330]

 

Been playing around with this for a bit.

Like I'm still undecided whether I want to go straight Synchro, BEWD or Dragunity builds.

Each have their own pros and cons.

The latter 2 have a lot of extra cards in the main which means they lose freedom of main decking floodgate cards. They are also susceptible to dead hands. However I feel they are both explosive. Like I don't own a deck for this format IRL, and BEWD seems the cheapest and most realistic for me to get easily.

 

I managed to fit Tachyon, Heliopolis and Giant Grinder in the extra only really using Tachyon and Grinder cause of their ability to drop a lot of damage. I'm pretty sure I'm missing something from the extra i just can't seem to grasp what it might be.

I also need help with the side deck cause I either seem to overside for x matchup or not have enough side for randy matchups

[+Urthor]

 

 

Holy shit remember this guy?  Now he's actually not terrible.  Definitely not worth the slot in extra unless you run silvers cry, but the fact that this shitty ultimate is actually playable is just amazing.

[AK-48 70]

 With regards to the blue-eyes build, the majority of builds posted thus far have THREE card of consonance and TWO trade-in.

I really think that this is just adding to the consistency issues you guys are finding with the deck.
I'm sorry but Trade-in is just shit. Straight up trash.

You have three targets total which are searchable yes, but it really sucks ass to open this card and NOT have a way to access blue-eyes.

And don't even let me get started on when you draw this after turn 1. It is really the card you would want least to draw in your deck.

 

Heck I find that even CoC is hit and miss. I only really like it in the dragunity version where you can actively search your tuners more than once.

I prefer running a discard outlet with more utility such as PWWB.

 

In theory yes, these cards should help you dig deeper into your deck but the fact they require you to have a specific card in your to utilise them turns me off them completely.