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its meh...i mean it is ok that it has "Malebranche of the Burning Abyss" on its name but outside that it adds 0 utility to the deck
it is hard to run a generic tuner since the self-destruction effect ...the only acceptable tuner is genex ally birdman which combined with TGU its a always working vergil
 
as for vergil, damn  card is freaking good, shuffling them shaddoll fusions,shadow-imprisioning mirrors, ect along with a solid 2500 attack
cir+dante just got 10 times better imho


Birdman is trash. Without TGU its dead.

Also, this card adds quite a bit of utility to the deck, even being a "vanilla". The fact that its a Burning Abyss alone means that its a recyclable tuner with Cir, which alone is insane, and can be tutored out of the deck onto the field via Graff for quick synchro summoning (makes Graff a bit better since this is a 2100 def tuner which means its going to survive a turn). 2100 def means that it can survive at least a turn if you have a slower hand. Also, the Abyss Trap becomes a bit more viable to play.

 

 

 

as i said,birdman acceptable, but i havent tested it so i cant say really much

what i meant with utility is that every BA monster replaces itself, and i know it wouldve been a bit op giving it an aditional strong effect, but we all expected at least 1 shitty effect like "if this card is sent to the graveyard : BA monsters you currently control gain 500 atk and def for the rest of the turn" or something like that

it bothers me a bit

now i have a question, i believe they are going to release a spell card in this very set, is it true?

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theamatuer    89


 

its meh...i mean it is ok that it has "Malebranche of the Burning Abyss" on its name but outside that it adds 0 utility to the deck
it is hard to run a generic tuner since the self-destruction effect ...the only acceptable tuner is genex ally birdman which combined with TGU its a always working vergil
 
as for vergil, damn  card is freaking good, shuffling them shaddoll fusions,shadow-imprisioning mirrors, ect along with a solid 2500 attack
cir+dante just got 10 times better imho

Birdman is trash. Without TGU its dead.

Also, this card adds quite a bit of utility to the deck, even being a "vanilla". The fact that its a Burning Abyss alone means that its a recyclable tuner with Cir, which alone is insane, and can be tutored out of the deck onto the field via Graff for quick synchro summoning (makes Graff a bit better since this is a 2100 def tuner which means its going to survive a turn). 2100 def means that it can survive at least a turn if you have a slower hand. Also, the Abyss Trap becomes a bit more viable to play.
 
 
 
as i said,birdman acceptable, but i havent tested it so i cant say really much
what i meant with utility is that every BA monster replaces itself, and i know it wouldve been a bit op giving it an aditional strong effect, but we all expected at least 1 shitty effect like "if this card is sent to the graveyard : BA monsters you currently control gain 500 atk and def for the rest of the turn" or something like that
it bothers me a bit
now i have a question, i believe they are going to release a spell card in this very set, is it true?
Yep. fire lake of the burning abyss. Apparently it's a quick play but that's all we know about it

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Nate1080    1225
That isn't a shitty effect. 3000 Virgil/Dante would be ridiculous.

It has utility in a different sense, rather than directly replacing itself or having an additional effect (either of which would be too good).

Be thankful Konami isn't that dumb.





Just to save you some time testing: Birdman isn't acceptable. You don't need a generic tuner here, pretty much every synchro you can summon is outclassed by Virgil anyways 9.9 times out of 10. Also, its trash outside of TGU combos and even then, it seems meh.

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Wow so much hype for a vanilla lol. Just the fact that it's a searchable BA tuner still makes you want to run it. So does it need an extra broken effect? I think not.

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can someone cool edit the tidal for Rubic > (name)

 

 

Rubic, now with added confirmation!

FYI, I believe we recently changed it so members can alter titles on their own now.

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NB96    853
On 3 October 2014 at 0:07 PM, Urthor said:
 

 


Redflame88: DN related?
Urthor: what?
Urthor: oh yo uare mr portugal
Redflame88: ._.
Urthor: oh no I needed soeone
Urthor: because I was going ask a favour
Redflame88: sure
Urthor: and see if you could help with squinting
Urthor: at the BA tuner text
Redflame88: text
Redflame88: where is it?
Urthor: I'll get hte picture sec
Redflame88: sure thing
Urthor: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/103508590/BS.jpg
Urthor: http://duelshop.com.br/index.php/yu-gi-oh/graff-malebranche-do-abismo-ardente-duea-pt083.html
Redflame88: o.o
Redflame88: i cant see shit
Urthor: IKR
Urthor: it's fucking hard
Urthor: like what poeple did with merlin is just compare the text
Urthor: to other cards
Urthor: and look at the difference
Urthor: so what I suggest is look at graff
Urthor: and see if there's a difference in like the first 3 lines
Redflame88: at 5AM? wow this is goin to be a challenge
Redflame88: hold on
Urthor: IK don't blame you
Redflame88: well
Redflame88: the 1st 3 lines seem really similar
Urthor: taht's actually good to know
Urthor: now like I'm looking
Urthor: at the last two bullets
Urthor: if you look athe right two images you can see there are two bullets clearly
Redflame88: yeap i know
Urthor: the first bullet seems like it says "if you control no spell/traps special"
Urthor: the second bullet
Urthor: is realyl short
Urthor: like amazingly short
Urthor: and I'm sorta wondering what you'd think it might be
Redflame88: yeah, the first one seems similar to the other 3
Urthor: like I've got a current theory but I'd sorta liek your take on it before I tell you
Urthor: just unprejudiced
Redflame88: i heard something the other week it would be: "if this card is sent to the graveyard, ss it"
Urthor: yea
Redflame88: and as you can see is short ._.
Urthor: that's waht I thought it was
Urthor: liek
Urthor: how do you say that in portugues
Urthor: is it really short
Urthor: and/or could you compare that bullet
Urthor: to dandylion in portugues?
Redflame88: se esta carta for enviada para o cemiterio, invoca-a especialmente
Urthor: and when youj look at the last line
Urthor: that's a single really long word to end teh sentance
Redflame88: yes it is
Urthor: what if it said
Urthor: enviada para o cemiterio, invoca-a especialmente
Urthor: without the se esta carta
Urthor: say if it said "when this card is sent to the grave, special summon it"
Redflame88: Quando esta carta e enviada para o cemiterio, invoca-a especialmente
Urthor: ah
Urthor: it's be longer then
Redflame88: yeah
Urthor: mmm
Urthor: what would be the shortest way to say it
Urthor: Quando esta carta enviada ao Cemitrio
Urthor: that's what's on Dandylion
Urthor: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dandylion
Redflame88: its what's it in the wikia
Urthor: ^
Redflame88: Quando esta carta enviada ao Cemitrio
Urthor: wiki aint always right fair point
Redflame88: cemiterio
Redflame88: anyway, sorry if i wasnt able to help you that much
Urthor: np
Urthor: get to bed
Redflame88: xD
Urthor: don't mean to keep you longer than you can stay
Redflame88: oh no
Redflame88: i dont have college tomorrow
Redflame88: so its alright lol
Urthor: oic
Urthor: like tbh this is super helpful
Urthor: confirming the rumour by looking at the long word
Urthor: hmm
Urthor: how would you say
Urthor: "if you synchro summon with this card, draw 1 card"
Urthor: like I'm looking above the bullets
Urthor: and it seems like it has very different card text
Urthor: to graff/cir
Redflame88: Se fizeres um Invocacao Synchro, compra uma carta
Redflame88: wait, forgot this
Urthor: np
Redflame88: Se fizeres uma Invocacao Synchro com esta carta, compra uma carta
Urthor: Tuningware
Urthor: have a look at that if it helps
Redflame88: yeah, draw can be = compre/puxe
Urthor: right
Redflame88: i cant see a single comma
Urthor: in all of Graff's text
Urthor: there's literally only 1 comma
Urthor: quite a few full stops though
Redflame88: yeah
Urthor: I'm looking at the top line
Urthor: it seems liek for the first few words it's exactly the same as graff?
Urthor: do you think?
Redflame88: the thing is
Redflame88: i cant really say, cuz
Redflame88: i dont know the name of the card
Urthor: right
Urthor: but the way the text works is
Urthor: If you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster, destroy this card
Urthor: so the naem only comes up in the second line
Urthor: stretching the text
Urthor: it should line up b4 then
Urthor: if you compare it to the duel shop graff
Redflame88: yes
Redflame88: its similar
Redflame88: i can even say, the same
Urthor: right
Urthor: that might be alll we can get from it then
Urthor: but thanks
Urthor: idk can you see anything else
Redflame88: i can try
Urthor: yea anything you can think of
Urthor: might be neat
Urthor: but sicne we have the last line confirmed
Urthor: there's a cool combo
Urthor: to be had
Urthor: like if you ahve
Urthor: 2 virgils
Urthor: and the tuner and a BA
Urthor: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level_Tuning
Urthor: activate that
Urthor: glfhf
Urthor: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Phonon_Pulse_Dragon
Redflame88: o.o
Redflame88: the second and third line are the ones really bothering me
Urthor: yea
Urthor: Liek maybe it could say
Urthor: "if you synchro with this card, draw a card. You can only gain this effect once per turn"
Urthor: or "this card can only be used for the synchro summon of a burning abyss monster"
Urthor: those are the two most likely effects
Redflame88: lets try translate each one
Redflame88: "Se fizer uma invocacao synchro com esta carta, puxe uma carta. Voce so pode activar este efeito uma vez por turno"
Redflame88: "Esta carta so pode ser usada na invocacao synchro de um monstro "Abismo Ardente"
Urthor: mm
Urthor: http://duelshop.com.br/index.php/cir-malebranche-do-abismo-ardente-duea-pt084.html
Urthor: looking at Cir
Urthor: you can see it's 2 and a bit lines of boilerplate
Urthor: then the dot points
Urthor: so the extra effect would start partaway through line 3
Urthor: Also what is
Urthor: "if this card is used for the synchro of a burning abyss monster: draw 1 card"
Urthor: that could be it
Redflame88: Se esta carta e usada na invocacao synchro de um monstro "abismo ardente": puxe uma carta"
Redflame88: if a better image of the card is leaked, i can do a much better job
Urthor: right
Urthor: IK IK
Urthor: http://imgur.com/xcWZlpg
Urthor: I'm looking at those two words
Urthor: yea if we don't get it we don't get it
Redflame88: all we can do is throw ideas xD
Urthor: mhmm
Urthor: I talked to ARk
Urthor: apparently it can only be a restrcition on the summons
Urthor: because that's the only really likely thing to be there
Redflame88: a restriction like?
Urthor: "this card can only be used to synchro summon BA monsters"
Urthor: "you can only perform a synchro summon with this card once per turn"
Redflame88: first one seems like the most likely one
Redflame88: the second one the words are too small
Urthor: ah
Urthor: yeah it looks like
Urthor: 4 big words
Urthor: then a small one
Urthor: sorta
Redflame88: 3 small ones
Urthor: like 3rd line of the text
Urthor: has a lot of small ones
Redflame88: yeah
Urthor: which are probably vez pour turno
Redflame88: and 4 huge ones
Urthor: yea
Redflame88: uma vez por turno
Urthor: 1st one is quite long
Urthor: second not quiite so long
Urthor: 3rd and 4th are almost the same
Urthor: then a 2-4 letter word
Urthor: then a mildly long word
Redflame88: i would say that the name of the card is between the 2nd and the 3rd line
Urthor: agreed
Urthor: cir has a 3 letter name
Urthor: so it jams pour turno onto line 2
Urthor: graff has 5 so pour turno goes down to line 3
Redflame88: funny youre trying to speak portuguese xD
Urthor: hehe
Redflame88: basically we would have something like this at the end of the card
Redflame88: "name of the card, por turno e apenas esse turno"
Urthor: turno e apenas esse turno
Urthor: that seems like
Urthor: exactly what we can see on line 5
Urthor: line 3
Urthor: tbh
Urthor: I think they jammed the entire name onto line 2
Redflame88: but if that's the case, what would you put on line 3?
Redflame88: cuz there's 4 lines, and the bullets are on line 5 and then 6
Urthor: a really long
Urthor: restrcition effect
Urthor: starting with 4 lnog words
Urthor: "you can only synchro summon with a burning abyss monster, and only once per turn"
Urthor: that'll cover the rest of line 3
Urthor: all of line 4
Urthor: and the start of line 5 before the bullets
Redflame88: i cant remember anything that can have 4 words in a row, like you need atleast a small one
Redflame88: that's why i think those 4 words has to be the name, or something like that
Urthor: what if it's
Urthor: 1 small one
Urthor: then 4 big ones
Urthor: then 1 small one
Urthor: yeah that's true
Urthor: maybe word 3 and word 4
Urthor: are "burning abyss"
Urthor: "abysso ardente"
Urthor: then you've got
Urthor: 1 short, 2 big, burning abyss, 1 short
Redflame88: "abismo ardente" yes that would be my guess as well
Redflame88: and it seems i can read
Redflame88: invocacao synchro
Urthor: invocacao synchro "abismo ardente"
Urthor: what does that mean?
Redflame88: synchro summonBA
Redflame88: *summon BA
Redflame88: that's why you need small words
Urthor: right
Urthor: but what's a sentance
Redflame88: cuz it doesnt make any sense
Urthor: that would have those string of words
Urthor: in it
Urthor: at the front
Urthor: I think if we can find a sentance that would have those words lined up together
Urthor: maybe wtih a small word in front
Urthor: we'll have cracked it
Redflame88: most likely
Redflame88: but we'll have to do it later xD
Urthor: np
Redflame88: just skype me later
Urthor: right
Urthor: do I have you
Redflame88: hmm i dont think so
Redflame88: hold on
Urthor: I'm urthor1
Redflame88: ill send request
Urthor: that's easy to spell
 

 

 

like that

 

haven't been bothered to get back together and do the middle bit, because we know the important bit, and testing the card is pointless until we know the other 2 burning abyss effect monsters from NECH, and the effect of Burning Lake.  

 

fyi, I think what we were talking about in there is wrong.  I think the text of "you can only use one of the burning abyss effects per turn" will go in line 3-4 directly before the bullet points, which throws all the speculation about the middle effects off.  

I still remember this debacle

Edited by NB96

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On 9/29/2014 at 11:55 AM, Mascis said:

What I like most about Burning Abyss cards is that they are based off of Inferno and by the end Dante and his guide Virgil eventually get out of hell so to me that means we'll eventually get out of this hell Konami is creating. 

 

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