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Lukaku has the first touch of a retarded goat on lsd

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Why they spent that money on lukaku over harry kane or alexis sanchez is absolutely beyond me

 

Lukaku doesnt work with utds other players. Who at utd can cross to lukaku? Martial and rashford both cut in. Mata miki both lile playing down the center

 

Lukaku is a penalty box striker and utd dont play around the pem box the same way that arsenal citu etc do

 

Horrific fit in terms of their team umless they buy new wingers too lol

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lukaku is a beast and young as fuck. would take him at liverpool all day long. only issue is his agent. 

 

 

however good point w/sanchez. sanchez is better. 

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10 hours ago, Winter Multi said:

Why they spent that money on lukaku over harry kane or alexis sanchez is absolutely beyond me

 

Lukaku doesnt work with utds other players. Who at utd can cross to lukaku? Martial and rashford both cut in. Mata miki both lile playing down the center

 

Lukaku is a penalty box striker and utd dont play around the pem box the same way that arsenal citu etc do

 

Horrific fit in terms of their team umless they buy new wingers too lol

All our players are likely going to be 15-20 yards further up the pitch this season as Mourinho now has the opportunity to really build his United team. No more relying on Fellaini who slows us down. Also I think Rashford is the best crosser in the team right now.

 

I'm confident that José knows how to utilise Lukaku in our style of play better than any of us armchair analysts though. Personally I think he suits us better than Chelsea. Morata might be great for them though. He's close to a like for like replacement for Costa in terms of style of play, and with a very good goals to game ratio this season just gone at Madrid to boot.

 

I agree that Lukaku has areas for improvement and first touch is one of them, but he's only 23/24 so he has time on his side. Either way he is a 20 goal a season striker so I think he will do just fine for us. In terms of wingers I don't think we need a new set. Perisic seems to be a target but I'd like Martial to have another chance if he can just learn more about how to move off the ball. Most teams these days use their wide players to drift inside; it's the full backs who provide width these days and I think Tottenham is a good example of this with Walker and Rose. We definately need a new left-back and the rumors seem to suggest Celtic's Kieran Tierney could be that guy. Shaw is a lost cause imo and needs to go. Darmian is a good squad player who is solid enough defensively but offers nothing going forward. Juventus seem interested in Darmian for some reason and for £15m I wouldn't mind letting him move on?

 

I don't think Wenger is going to sell Sanchez to Manchester United after the Robin Van Persie debacle. Nor do I think he will sell his best player to the guy who lablled him a "voyeur" and "specialist in failure". I guess we could offer stupid money but Sanchez is 28 atm, turning 29 in December so there's a risk involved. Wenger will probably either sell Sanchez abroad, or let him run down his contract. Maybe City could get him but even that is a tough deal to make. Either way, Arsenal will remain the comedy club of European football so who cares.

 

Kane will cost £125m+ imo. Not to mention we'd be negotiating till the last day of the window, so you're putting all your eggs in that basket and if the deal doesn't work out you have no time to get someone else. The real question is why nobody has moved for Aubameyang? Could his wage demands really be that high? He has like 30+ goals in around 30 league games; undeniable world class. Would love him at Old Trafford.

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3 hours ago, Aaron said:

lukaku is a beast and young as fuck. would take him at liverpool all day long. only issue is his agent. 

 

 

however good point w/sanchez. sanchez is better. 

Lukaku is quality he just doesnt fit with the rest of utds team at all in terms of playstyle

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43 minutes ago, NB96 said:

All our players are likely going to be 15-20 yards further up the pitch this season as Mourinho now has the opportunity to really build his United team. No more relying on Fellaini who slows us down. Also I think Rashford is the best crosser in the team right now.

 

I'm confident that José knows how to utilise Lukaku in our style of play better than any of us armchair analysts though. Personally I think he suits us better than Chelsea. Morata might be great for them though. He's close to a like for like replacement for Costa in terms of style of play, and with a very good goals to game ratio this season just gone at Madrid to boot.

 

I agree that Lukaku has areas for improvement and first touch is one of them, but he's only 23/24 so he has time on his side. Either way he is a 20 goal a season striker so I think he will do just fine for us. In terms of wingers I don't think we need a new set. Perisic seems to be a target but I'd like Martial to have another chance if he can just learn more about how to move off the ball. Most teams these days use their wide players to drift inside; it's the full backs who provide width these days and I think Tottenham is a good example of this with Walker and Rose. We definately need a new left-back and the rumors seem to suggest Celtic's Kieran Tierney could be that guy. Shaw is a lost cause imo and needs to go. Darmian is a good squad player who is solid enough defensively but offers nothing going forward. Juventus seem interested in Darmian for some reason and for £15m I wouldn't mind letting him move on?

 

I don't think Wenger is going to sell Sanchez to Manchester United after the Robin Van Persie debacle. Nor do I think he will sell his best player to the guy who lablled him a "voyeur" and "specialist in failure". I guess we could offer stupid money but Sanchez is 28 atm, turning 29 in December so there's a risk involved. Wenger will probably either sell Sanchez abroad, or let him run down his contract. Maybe City could get him but even that is a tough deal to make. Either way, Arsenal will remain the comedy club of European football so who cares.

 

Kane will cost £125m+ imo. Not to mention we'd be negotiating till the last day of the window, so you're putting all your eggs in that basket and if the deal doesn't work out you have no time to get someone else. The real question is why nobody has moved for Aubameyang? Could his wage demands really be that high? He has like 30+ goals in around 30 league games; undeniable world class. Would love him at Old Trafford.

The fact that rashford is the best crosser in your team illustrates how poor a decision lukaku was in terms of utds style.

 

And utd fans have been saying they wont need to rely on fellani for 5 years and despite spending over a quater of a billion on new players hes still in the starting 11, boggles the mind.

 

Harry kame or samchez or abumyang would help utd play far mpre than lukaku imo. Sanchez will go to city for sure.

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Lukaku now officially confirmed by the club. Hooray!

 

Chelsea's pursuit of Tiemoue Bakayoko appears to be over after the discovery of a knee injury that could leave him out for 8-10 weeks. I seem to recall Bakayoko playing against City and Juventus with a knee injury in the CL.

 

Conte must be fuming with the way his transfer window is going. I do wonder if there's any truth to the suggestions that he may quit Chelsea if he finds their transfer window to ge dissatisfactory. Those rumors were doing the rounds a while ago but cooled down lately.

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If arsenal kkeep sanchez then having him and lacazette up from would be awesome

 

Alao xhaka in modfield means if he assists lacazette, everyone will be saying "boom xhaka laka"

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City have spent like 80million this summer and i didnt even notice lol

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Bayern have agreed a two-year loan deal for James Rodriguez.

 

So disappointing. Wanted him badly at Old Trafford as our alternative to Griezmann. Cannot understand why Real Madrid would agree to such a deal. We were supposed to be in talks but I perhaps our rapidly deterorating relationship with Real Madrid has something to do with it. Alterenative is that we weren't really in for him.

 

Get Nainggolan instead Mr Woodward! Or - rather - anybody but Eric Dier for £60m!

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James is perhaps the most over rated player in europe.

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5 minutes ago, Winter Multi said:

James is perhaps the most over rated player in europe.

I think he's really good personally. AFAIK he was doing very well for Real Madrid until Zidane came in who seemed not to take to him.

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He's excellent! Just not Ronaldo/Bale level. 

 

I think he'll struggle at Bayern.. its just so difficult there. He has the talent but its the opportunity which he needs. 

 

I think he would have struggled at United too. I think any top class player should wait a season or 2 before joining United just to see how Mourinho starts setting them up. I wouldn't want to risk prime years of my career at the hands of Mourinho & United in transition. 

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43 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I wouldn't want to risk prime years of my career at the hands of Mourinho & United in transition. 

Mourinho in his second season is title challenging surely! His best work often comes in year 2.

 

We played some turgid football towards the end of the season for sure but with an extra 3 or 4 of Mourinho's men I expect us to be a little easier on the eye. I anticipate a defensively solid, counter-attacking style in games where the opposition is strong enough not to let us outright dominate. Something similar to Simeone's Atletico Madrid I think.

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7 minutes ago, NB96 said:

This comment wouldn't make any sense unless a Liverpool supporter was saying it !

 

No, I'm just being honest.  This isn't a dig at United. A team in transition is a team in transition and when you have players like Griezzeman in their prime being touted to join, they really need to think carefully about their next move in regards to getting trophies. 

 

 

Its for the same reason a player like Aubemeyang should stay clear of Liverpool. 

 

 

If I were Alexis Sanchez and I know I have 3-4 years left in my prime, I would NOT go to United despite the huge amounts of money on offer. I'd much rather wait out a Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus offer than entrust my career in a team who still doesn't have a specific play style or philosophy in place and has some very good players whom haven't completely found their feet. For a younger player like Luakaku, its a no-brainer in many respects considering the young profile of players at United. 

 

 

I feel like United's squad has a fuck load of quality but its quite mismatched and unbalanced. I'd much rather slide effortlessly into a Chelsea or City tbh. Over the past 3-5 years I think of a few very talented players which have failed at United whom I'm 99% sure would have excelled under Fergie (Di Maria, Depay, Zaha, Rafael, Jones, Shaw) . I'm not saying any of those players would have been world class under Fergie but I think they'd still be at United and playing an important role. 

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Its a legit point

 

Title this season is gonna be so close. Look at the prestige there- mou and pep both in season 2 at manchester, conte at chelsea, klopp 2nd full season at Liverpool, spurs lookimg great, arsenal signing well (if they keep sanchez...) i mean i couldnt call it

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Oh and how could we forget....Leicester are gonna bounce back and get their 2nd title in 3 years!

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1 hour ago, Winter Multi said:

Title this season is gonna be so close. Look at the prestige there- mou and pep both in season 2 at manchester, conte at chelsea, klopp 2nd full season at Liverpool, spurs lookimg great, arsenal signing well (if they keep sanchez...) i mean i couldnt call it

I agree it's going to be fantastic and his time with all the top 6 managers now having more than one season at the helm, nobody is going to run away with it anymore.

 

I will make another thread for the PL next season soon but also this time a Champion's League 2017/18 thread. I know we say every season that this year will be the year English football makes its great comeback to become a European force once again. But realistically I think with the money we can spend and the fact that all managers have had a whole season to build their team and imprint their style of play means we're going to prove all the doubters within Europe wrong. Each manager will have more or less built their team at this point with two Summer transfer windows minimum.

 

This country didn't have a prayer last season even with Pep Guardiola the media's golden boy, but now we will be a threat. The traditional giants of United and Liverpool, the nouveau rich of Chelsea and City, and the young, yet brilliant Spurs! The real danger for Tottenham is perhaps the stadium but as professional footballers you expect them to get over the hangup of playing in Wembley sooner or later and start to roll teams over like they did all season long.

 

The British Empire used to own the whole fucking planet. The time has come to once again conquer European football. With Barcelona in decline we must strike back hard and fast, and with the counter-offensive we will at last break the Spanish stranglehold on European silverware.

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2 hours ago, NB96 said:

 

I agree it's going to be fantastic and his time with all the top 6 managers now having more than one season at the helm, nobody is going to run away with it anymore.

 

I will make another thread for the PL next season soon but also this time a Champion's League 2017/18 thread. I know we say every season that this year will be the year English football makes its great comeback to become a European force once again. But realistically I think with the money we can spend and the fact that all managers have had a whole season to build their team and imprint their style of play means we're going to prove all the doubters within Europe wrong. Each manager will have more or less built their team at this point with two Summer transfer windows minimum.

 

This country didn't have a prayer last season even with Pep Guardiola the media's golden boy, but now we will be a threat. The traditional giants of United and Liverpool, the nouveau rich of Chelsea and City, and the young, yet brilliant Spurs! The real danger for Tottenham is perhaps the stadium but as professional footballers you expect them to get over the hangup of playing in Wembley sooner or later and start to roll teams over like they did all season long.

 

The British Empire used to own the whole fucking planet. The time has come to once again conquer European football. With Barcelona in decline we must strike back hard and fast, and with the counter-offensive we will at last break the Spanish stranglehold on European silverware.

I love your optimism but the reality is that no team in the uk can come even remotely close to the liles of Real, Barca, Bayern, Dortmund, Athletico or even Juve right now. 

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Also only a utd fan would call pep "the medias golden boy" - the hypocrisy is incredible given who man u habe as manager

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1 hour ago, Winter Multi said:

Also only a utd fan would call pep "the medias golden boy" - the hypocrisy is incredible given who man u habe as manager

We have the most hated manager in world football. And - much like a vampire - I take nourishment from that hatred and love every minute of it! 

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Our league is one of the worst  from the big leagues in regards to a quality of player perspective, especially at the top end.  We also have the worst homegrown talent. 

We also have the best managers in the world and the most money. 

 

 

 

Really strange deal at the moment. I expect that the best managers will eventually translate to the best players but there is  only so much you can do. 

 

 

 

I can't remember anyone with a brain saying or thinking english clubs are going to steam roll Europe since the days when there was a solid top 4.

 

 

Chelsea = small squad, balancing europe and domestic for first time in ages

Liverpool = ditto, + very intense playstyle so increased volume of games is trouble

Spurs = ditto + big lack of experience from a manager + player perspective 

United = team in transition, lack of experience from the player side, no set playstyle 

City = the squad is a mess, they need to fix their fullback situation ASAP, sort out the defense and get maybe another experienced forward to cover for Aguero who will likely get injured

 

and if Arsenal were in Europe, we already know what would happen.  

 

 

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The problem isn't even really the quality of players (which has declined somewhat), but I would argue that it's still mostly the intensity of the league that's stopping Premier League teams from succeeding in Europe. Combine that with the teams in the other top leagues having the luxury of a winter break and you start seeing where they get a lot of innate advantages. I think the decline in the top teams performing in europe in particular has coincided with an increase in the quality of the average premier league team while the best teams have hit a point of stagnation. On top of that, I would be very interested to see what the rates of injuries in Germany or France are in comparison to England.

English teams being the richest doesn't necessarily help out with anything either, since when a Premier League team comes knocking on a door for any player from the continent, you can expect their evaluation of their player to skyrocket. The money mostly just causes market inflation.  If no Premier League teams were interested in Lacazette for example and he was sold to a German team it probably would have been for 30 million instead of 50.

 

 

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Probably wont happen but I do think that if the FA just completely scrapped the EFL Cup it would be much easier to introduce a Winter break.

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Manchester City have signed Kyle Walker for a deal in excess of £50m.

 

The exodus begins.

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