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Nate1080    1217

ARMS just had its last character/stage update last night. Balance patches will still be relased though.

 

It was a good run. 5 or so free characters/stages in the last 6 months is pretty good for a fighting game this generation. Not even mad tbh, the characters (especially the last one) have been really fun to play with.

 

EDIT: apparently it was mistranslated and they meant the last major update this year...? Its not entirely clear. I do hope they don’t stop updating this game yet, its apparently supposed to be at EVO Japan next year.

 

 

At least it ended with this sick ass title screen:

 

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long season    2

picked up a switch with botw and odyssey. it's super comfy laying in bed under blankets with a joycon in each hand exploring in zelda

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+Urthor    10170

Playing Zelda on my 3DS was amazing, I'm sure the switch is as well

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NB96    813

New Super Mario Odyssey online mode and more!
 


Dark Souls Remastered will also be really cool!

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Nate1080    1217

Tropical Freeze is an amazing port. Best 2D platformer this generation imo, thank god its not just limited to the WiiU anymore.

 

Also, the SNK fighting game, while I don’t have any interest in it, looks decent and is welcome. The Switch/Nintendo needs more new fighting games (not just ports/remasters), all these fighting games coming out and most are passing the Switch by.

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+Gemstone Mine    2582

man, if only nintendo had one of the most beloved fighting game series all to themselves, and all they had to do was make a game, or port one of the old ones, 3/4 of which would be very welcome.

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Nate1080    1217

Lets make that half. Smash 64 is kind of sketch tbh, past the nostalgia is a pretty wonky game.

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Nate1080    1217

I’d be pissed if they did a Brawl port before a Smash 4 port. Smash 4 is so much better than Brawl it isn’t funny. Like...Brawl isn’t fun at all, lol. 

 

 

Honestly, if they choose not to do a brand new Smash, I can see Nintendo making a Smash collection just like how Capcom is making a Street Fighter collection. 4 games in 1 cart. Every game is online enabled. Everyone wins.

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+Urthor    10170
8 hours ago, Nate1080 said:

I’d be pissed if they did a Brawl port before a Smash 4 port. Smash 4 is so much better than Brawl it isn’t funny. Like...Brawl isn’t fun at all, lol. 

 

 

Honestly, if they choose not to do a brand new Smash, I can see Nintendo making a Smash collection just like how Capcom is making a Street Fighter collection. 4 games in 1 cart. Every game is online enabled. Everyone wins.

 

Smash 4 has 1000x more netcode to deal with, I can 100% see why they are porting Brawl and not creating an entire Smash 4 multiplayer ecosystem.  Also like they are probably going to release Smash 5 in 2019 so yeah that's a thing.  

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picked one of these bad boys up the other week, never looked back. pokken was a fun bundle game for about half an hour, BoTW is addicting and fun and i plan to get MK8 and Fire Emblem Warriors later today.

 

after that idk what to get when my next payday comes. Arms looks fun but i'm hearing so much good shit about Splatoon 2 it makes me wonder. 

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Nate1080    1217
3 hours ago, Urthor said:

 

Smash 4 has 1000x more netcode to deal with, I can 100% see why they are porting Brawl and not creating an entire Smash 4 multiplayer ecosystem.  Also like they are probably going to release Smash 5 in 2019 so yeah that's a thing.  

 

Porting Smash 4 would be insanely easy compared to porting Brawl, netcode would be the smallest hurdle. Also porting Brawl would be dumb since very few people even liked the game, competitive and casual players alike. Why port a game that relatively no one likes?

 

Also, would give them a chance to make Smash 4 netcode good. Smash 4 netcode, while not as bad as Brawl, is awful.

 

Lastly, Smash 5 in 2019 would be a miracle considering we haven’t heard anything of it at all and they like to take their sweet time making Smash. The creation of Smash 4 injured the developer, so a Smash 5 happening period is truly up in the air.

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+Gemstone Mine    2582
1 hour ago, Nate1080 said:

the creation of Smash 4 injured the developer, so a Smash 5 happening period is truly up in the air.

what?

 

In no world was smash 4 not a success. It sold well, did well critically and with the public, and bolstered the sales of an otherwise dead on arrival console. There's literally no reason to use it as a reason to not make smash 5.

 

Sales-wise, it put up near identical numbers to brawl, which is a minor miracle given the relative unpopularity of the 3ds/wii-u compared to the baseline wii (for perspective, as of last december, the wii-u sold only about a tenth of the consoles the wii did, and the 3ds and wii-u together put up about 70% of the wii's numbers), and how lukewarm brawl was recieved.

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Nate1080    1217

I never said it wasn’t a success, you misinterpreted what I meant.

 

I meant that literally Sakurai, the creator, injured himself (I believe it was his hands) working on Smash 4.

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Aaron    1980

sakurai's comments did point towards huge stress for making smash 4. . 

 

 

anyway playing botw and it is insane. possibly the most beautiful game i've ever played. i've sunk at least 40 hours into this thing and still only got 1 champion. climbing up a mountain is fun on this game. fucking hell. 

 

 

after this game, i might pick up xeno 2 or play witcher 3 (if i can find myself the heart to buy a graphics card)  + rabbids on the go. 

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+Urthor    10170

Sakurai can fuck off though, rather anyone else make a successful smash game, now the foundations of the formula are in a different vision would probably be just as successful.  

 

Need to put some pennies aside for a switch at this rate...

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Nate1080    1217

I strongly doubt anyone else could make a good Smash game though, Sakurai (love him or hate him for whatever reasons) put in so much work its insane and I doubt many other people at Nintendo have such a work ethic.

 

At that point, just port Smash 4. Any new Smash would literally be the same thing, as some random would likely just copy that formula anyways or, worse imo, try to copy the Melee formula to apease the fanbase*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*I like Melee, but lets be honest: its definitely a product of its time to say the least. Though it may lack the “advanced tech” of Melee and may not be as fast, Smash 4 has overall better gameplay feel and controls. Also, outside of the competitive Melee community, more people actually like Smash 4 over Melee.

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1 hour ago, Nate1080 said:

I strongly doubt anyone else could make a good Smash game though, Sakurai (love him or hate him for whatever reasons) put in so much work its insane and I doubt many other people at Nintendo have such a work ethic.

 

At that point, just port Smash 4. Any new Smash would literally be the same thing, as some random would likely just copy that formula anyways or, worse imo, try to copy the Melee formula to apease the fanbase*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*I like Melee, but lets be honest: its definitely a product of its time to say the least. Though it may lack the “advanced tech” of Melee and may not be as fast, Smash 4 has overall better gameplay feel and controls. Also, outside of the competitive Melee community, more people actually like Smash 4 over Melee.

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I agree that Sakurai makes Smash games like no other. However, I disagree that the formula has become "stale" and any new game would be a waste. Smash 4 is by no means a perfect game, both casually and competitively. Look how the game has changed over the years, with each iteration bringing a bunch of new things to the table. I for one would be excited to see what new changes they would make to Smash 5, as well as the roster and how the competitive scene would take shape.

 

"Smash 4 having better gameplay, feel, and controls" is entirely your opinion. 

 

You can't just set aside the competitive community of one game and then compare it to the combined competitive and casual communities of another. Setting aside "the competitive community" of both games would leave us with a bunch of people who played Melee as kids and a bunch of people who play Smash 4 currently. Smash 4 has the larger "casual" fanbase because it's easier to access. You have it on the Wii U, both digitally and sold in just about every current game store. It's also portable on the 3DS.

 

If they decide to port Melee to the switch, it would definitely recreate the game's more "casual" fanbase and put the competitive scene back into the spotlight. If they port Smash 4, it would revitalize the competitive scene and make it even more accessible to everyone. Or they might create an entirely new game. It all depends on what they decide to do in the coming years.

 

Or maybe they'll just create the Smash Compendium like you said, porting all the games to the switch and making netplay for each. Wouldn't that be something...

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