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Should mats with link zones be required post link changes?

Should mats be required post links?  

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  1. 1. Should mats be required post links?

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I'm interested in what the competitive community thinks about this, specially judges. Should mats with proper zoning be required for competitive play post links? I think its kind obvious it should, but a lot of people i've talked to don't like the idea. They say people should just not move the cads around, though i think that's going to cause tremendous issues an be a massive headache for judges. 

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Mr Dragon    297

I think players should have to agree upon a way of maintaining consistency regarding which zones the cards are placed in - and using mats with zones on them is one very easy way of doing that, but I don't think it should necessarily be required. Especially since a good majority of the mats Konami have made have lacked zones.

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+Satchmo    3214

none of my mats have zones, so peronally I'm gonna use coins to identify zone location

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+JC.    4777

" You can also Duel without using the Game Mat as long as you remember where to place the cards." - page 4 of the current rulebook

 

You have been, are currently, and in the future will be required by the game to place your cards in the proper zones.

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I know you are, but no one does it and its hardly ever if ever enforced because it doesn't matter, but now it definitely does. Now every-time you summon you have to say "i'm placing this card in the second to outermost main monster zone" or "I'm placing this spell in the center S/T zone", and now you have to keep track of it not only for yourself but for your opponent. Its going to be a problem, and make it easy for people take advantage of the system and cheat.

 

I definitely see them having to require mats for tournament play tbh. One way they could do, and maybe this won't ever work for cost issues, but after you register for a tourney they could give you a free disposable paper mat and either you have to use it or use your own. 

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Me.    72
6 minutes ago, tonyvelasco1337 said:

 

How does this work ?

 

Put 14 coins in 2 rows of 7 on the mat and use each as one zone.

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»ACP    33376

I don't why players couldn't just say "hard left," "slight left," "mid," "slight right," or "hard right" when they place a card on the field. Once zones become important, players will naturally become more careful with placement.

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Me.    72
Just now, ACP said:

I don't why players couldn't just say "hard left," "slight left," "mid," "slight right," or "hard right" when they place a card on the field. Once zones become important, players will naturally become more careful with placement.

 

"he said, she said" judge calls could become a (bigger) problem from a TO perspective.

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+Satchmo    3214
24 minutes ago, Me. said:

 

Put 14 coins in 2 rows of 7 on the mat and use each as one zone.

you actually only need 10, since field zone, graveyard and the deck zones are static

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ThatOneGuy    2005

I don't think the mats should be required, but communication between players is going to become even more important because of this.

 

On the topic of mats though, I'd love to see some 2-player mats that include the extra monster zones.

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SageRhapsody    261

It's going to be crazy hard to judge shit if we don't play with mats with areas drawn on. People will forget exactly where their monster was placed, where the opponent's was placed etc etc. I was worried about this arrow thing with links since it opens up so much room for silly mistakes and misunderstandings. 

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Carter Wix    4

Playing with mats would just create backlash as long as you make it clear where your cards are placed it doesnt need to be an issue

 

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Me.    72
9 hours ago, Silver said:

konami should provide mats for proper ettiquete 

They already do that, it's called "Regional Championship" and it's an event where you pay a small fee and they give you a mat.

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turceal    28

Konami actually released a new product for OCG where they have "Field center" cards that serve as midpoint between the two players fields (it goes in between the two extra monster zones) so that you can orient your field correctly. 

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+Urthor    10171

Edited the title so it made sense n stuff call me a nazi as you would

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2ill    3

Mats shouldn't be a requirement.  I realize the game has changed a lot since I last played,  but either way, if players can't find resolve in the # of cards they have on the field - Then playing children's card games have taken too much toll on those players maturity and they need to take a break for a while.  Maybe it's me being old school,  I barely played past the point of synchro monsters introduction, but if I can't use my OG top 8 mats(which I never pay attention to zones in anyway)from dates starting back in 2003, respect has been lost.  Lol.  

 

*Edit* ; They give everyone mats at regionals now? That's sad.  

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»Pharaoh Atem    15752

They do not give everyone a mat.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15752
On 3/19/2017 at 6:36 PM, SageRhapsody said:

It's going to be crazy hard to judge shit if we don't play with mats with areas drawn on. People will forget exactly where their monster was placed, where the opponent's was placed etc etc. I was worried about this arrow thing with links since it opens up so much room for silly mistakes and misunderstandings. 

The last-resort answer to a "he-said-she-said" call, one that cannot be resolved by any other means, is "the judge believes X to be the most likely set of circumstances, therefore we will proceed with that set of circumstances, and the fault lies with the players for failing to both communicate clearly and manage the placement properly."

If I come to a table and see one player with an immaculate layout, and another with a messed up one, chances are that unless there is some mitigating factor making clear that I shouldn't expect the same standards of intelligence, discipline, or rule knowledge from both players, the person with the immaculate layout will have a finer grasp of the game's details regarding placement of cards in zones.

This means of course that I don't want to see Main Decks in places where Graveyards go, despite it being the style at the time.

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