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Help name my puppy!

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Ace is a good name - Batman's dog is named ace, also one of the best classic doctor who companions.

... the dog I bought my ex girlfriend was named Ace >_>;;;;;

 

 

Look up clicker training, it's probably the easiest training method. My guy's pretty damn stubborn but is taking well to it (Main issue I still have is pulling on leash and hostility to other dogs on leash which are hard to train otu as well) 

... ignore anyone who talks to you about 'being the Alpha' or similar that shit is by and large bullshit and is only marketable because of Cesar Milan making money. 

 

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Don't give attention to unwanted behaviour, the dog likes it when you give him attention and hand him his toys so he'll consider that a reward for his bad behaviour. Just ignore him when he's chewing on things - unless it's something fragile/important or dangerous, then a stern no to make him stop should suffice.

Chewing is normal puppy behaviour to a point, just like a human baby chewing on stuff when  they're changing teetch etc. If he has enough chew toys and you engage enough with the dog (so he doesn't just start chewing things because he's bored out of his mind) he'll grow out of it.

 

 

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It's very important to correctly socialise your dog at this point in his life. Take him outside for walks (on the street, the park, etc) have him meet strangers, other dogs/animals, see cars, anything you can think of he'll experience frequently, and make sure he always has positive experiences with them. (Strangers can pet him/give him treats, give him a treat when he experiences something new)

At this age it's easy to get them used to all kinds of new stimuli and experiences, it becomes a lot harder later in life. It can make the difference between a dog that chases every car he sees and one that just ignores them, for instance.

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Name him Nathan

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3 hours ago, rei said:

Ace is a good name - Batman's dog is named ace, also one of the best classic doctor who companions.

... the dog I bought my ex girlfriend was named Ace >_>;;;;;

 

 

Look up clicker training, it's probably the easiest training method. My guy's pretty damn stubborn but is taking well to it (Main issue I still have is pulling on leash and hostility to other dogs on leash which are hard to train otu as well) 

... ignore anyone who talks to you about 'being the Alpha' or similar that shit is by and large bullshit and is only marketable because of Cesar Milan making money. 

 

Good idea thanks for reminding me of that. I'll do some research. 

 

3 hours ago, Sophocles said:

Don't give attention to unwanted behaviour, the dog likes it when you give him attention and hand him his toys so he'll consider that a reward for his bad behaviour. Just ignore him when he's chewing on things - unless it's something fragile/important or dangerous, then a stern no to make him stop should suffice.

Chewing is normal puppy behaviour to a point, just like a human baby chewing on stuff when  they're changing teetch etc. If he has enough chew toys and you engage enough with the dog (so he doesn't just start chewing things because he's bored out of his mind) he'll grow out of it.

 

 

The problem is he doesn't usually respond to sternness. If it's say my laptop charger I have to pull it out of his mouth and move it or him away. Thankfully usually at that point he leaves it fora  bit. As I was writing this, my dad came home so he gave me a drive to the pet store and I picked up one of those hard rope chew toy things and he loves the shit out of it. I'm really happy, I was worried since I bought him 2 other toys and he barely touches them; one of those sorta flexy rubber bones, and a soft felt thing you freeze to numb the teeth. 

 

He still seems to go for carpets (and me. I don't know why he likes to chew on me) so maybe I'll find him an old rug or something. I think he likes how he can sink his teeth in. Any suggestions on this? 

3 hours ago, Sophocles said:

It's very important to correctly socialise your dog at this point in his life. Take him outside for walks (on the street, the park, etc) have him meet strangers, other dogs/animals, see cars, anything you can think of he'll experience frequently, and make sure he always has positive experiences with them. (Strangers can pet him/give him treats, give him a treat when he experiences something new)

At this age it's easy to get them used to all kinds of new stimuli and experiences, it becomes a lot harder later in life. It can make the difference between a dog that chases every car he sees and one that just ignores them, for instance.

 

Yeah I've been trying to do this. He's really receptive to people we pass-by, and always wants to greet them. He met a big dog too, and at first he got scared and barked and the dog left but he came back shortly and they had a short little exchange, and then they both went on their way. I gave him treats every time he met anyone. 

 

Thanks for the advice guys appreciate it a lot

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watch dog whisperer, I tried the basic stuff with puppies that wouldn't listen and it actually works 

you shouldn't be thinking of it too much as "what does my puppy like or not right now" but more as "how do I learn him to behave in the right way", same way it would happen in nature basically 

in before someone thinks im memeing about this

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missed messages here about caesar. lmao. 

 

Training him is proving tough. Very stubborn and doesn't seem to react to anything. Whines and chews on me a lot, as well as literally everything that's not his toys. He doesn't respond to stern "no!"  at all. I know you're not supposed to yell and instead use positive reinforcement, but at least the rare 'no!' should make him react at the very least. Especially collies; they're supposed to be extremely sensitive and reactive to humans/commands. He's also very stubborn. When he first came he was potty trained pretty well. Pooped the first time I took him out. Then he had a couple accidents; no problem, just take him outside asap to his last poo spot. Now I try taking him out a bit after he eats, and it's refuse to put collar on, refuse to go outside, refuse to stay outside. Try coaxing him out, offering treats, etc. Nope. Then give up, take him in and he poops inside 10 mins later. 

 

I got him from some farmer up north who had a whole liter of pups and like a pack of like 9 dogs. Could that be a reason why he's misbehaving? I couldn't really successfully crate train him and i'm very nervous to leave him for a few hours tomorrow for work. I can come back for lunch at least but still that's 2 2.5 hour periods he's completely alone. 

 

"help name my puppy! Has turned into 'help me stay sane from my puppy!'

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you shouldn't teach him what to do vocally at all, you do it physically, while in a calm manner

 

so if he's chewing on something, don't ignore it, but immediately correct him. if he doesn't listen at all, just take hold of him until he calms down, then let him go - he'll probably stop since he calmed down. keep doing it until its conditioned and he just knows what hes supposed to do and what not. honestly hes a puppy so you really need to train him, you cant just expect him to listen if youre being too passive about it

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if he doesnt respond to something, its because he doesnt know what it means yet, so you have to teach him. if you tell him "No" every time he chews something, while at the same time physically grabbing him or putting yourself between the object and the dog, he will make that connection after you do it enough and stay consistent with it

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Your dog doesn't know what "NO" means. He's not gonna respond to it.

 

 

Be careful with physical corrections, they're far more likely to teach your dog to be scared of you than for him to correlate it with any actual action he's doing.  

 


Mark: Do what happens in natiure

Also mark: Follow Cesar Milan, someone who literally believes in outmoded unsubstantiated "BE THA ALPHA IF YOU WALK OUT THE HOUSE AND THE DOG GOES IN FRONT OF YOU HE WILL NEVER RESPECT YOU" - wolves don't even have that alpha pack structure he believes in. 

 

Cheeser is absolutely right about one thing though - LOTS OF EXERCISE. Walk your dog way more than you should. That said I'm not 100% how to get over the leash-aversion, every dog I've ever dealt with has loved leashes/walks.

 

 

Citations on Milan being a tool:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dogtraining/wiki/cesarmillan - nonacademic but a good rundown; talks about what Cesar does right too

https://drsophiayin.com/philosophy/dominance/ - science of behaviour modification

https://avsab.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Dominance_Position_Statement_download-10-3-14.pdf - whitepaper on dominance theory

http://beyondcesarmillan.weebly.com/iaabc-behaviorists.html - IAABC letter to National Geographic

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/opinion/31derr.html - NY Times Opinion peice

 

 

I had a really good resource about the misinterpretations of dog/wolf social packs but i lost it : ( 

 

 

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You've had him for how long? Crate training is pretty foolproof if you dont have shared walls with a neighbour - he's not gonna shit on himself in most cases. Only reason I haven't crated is bevcause I dont want to piss off my landlord I share a wall with. 

 

 

How much are you walking him? I know you mentioned he doesnt like getting the collar on etc - but does he get out walking with you at least?

 

 

In terms of immediately stopping things, startling is a good call most of the time as it's not easily connected to you; maybe have a noisemaker behind your back or something 

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Chewing - is there a specific texture of item he goes for? My dog seems to chew on hard plastic things like pill bottles/medical weed containers/bottle caps so I got the hardest plastic-y-est bones I could find and he fucking loves those; it may be part of the challenge just finding what he likes to chew on.

 

 

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10 hours ago, SageRhapsody said:

missed messages here about caesar. lmao. 

 

Training him is proving tough. Very stubborn and doesn't seem to react to anything. Whines and chews on me a lot, as well as literally everything that's not his toys. He doesn't respond to stern "no!"  at all. I know you're not supposed to yell and instead use positive reinforcement, but at least the rare 'no!' should make him react at the very least. Especially collies; they're supposed to be extremely sensitive and reactive to humans/commands. 

 

Yeah what I meant to say was you're not supposed to yell at a dog to train him, but if he's about to eat something poisonous or you see him chew on the unreplaceable cable of your $500 TV you can make an exception. Otherwise, if he's chewing on you/objects you don't want him to, remove said object without talking to him or looking at him. Just remove it and continue whatever you're doing, don't acknowledge the behaviour. If he keeps seeking out something you might have to temporarily take it out of his sight/reach. 

 

Carpets are more difficult, there's sprays you can buy that taste bitter/icky you can use on them to discourage chewing.

 

Training a dog is a time-intensive process but everything you put in now saves you double or more the time later.

He will make messes and might damage a few things, that's not easy to avoid.

Just be patient and especially stay consistent in your approach, otherwise the dog won't be able to make sense of what you want. Don't expect him to pick up on all these things in a day or two.

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Physically restraining your dog to teach him things is not ok, dude

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BUT THE DOG WHISMURRER SAYD SO

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You should name him after a yugioh card

 

How about Kuriboh?

 

Nathan, Reggie and Markus are also good names imo.

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Defo call him Sylvester that name is hilarious

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reuw

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On 5/1/2017 at 6:24 PM, mark said:

watch dog whisperer, I tried the basic stuff with puppies that wouldn't listen and it actually works 

 

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11 hours ago, rei said:


Mark: Do what happens in natiure

Also mark: Follow Cesar Milan, someone who literally believes in outmoded unsubstantiated "BE THA ALPHA IF YOU WALK OUT THE HOUSE AND THE DOG GOES IN FRONT OF YOU HE WILL NEVER RESPECT YOU" - wolves don't even have that alpha pack structure he believes in. 

 

 

 

 

I think you miss the point here. Imagine your dog being all wild, doing whatever he wants, ready to run outside - and you just block it, let him calm down, wait for your commando and then let him follow. It's about letting the dog calm down rather than who goes outside first.

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yeah im mostly admonishing you for referring to the dog whisperer as a reasonable source

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unrelated, i am a successful dog whisperer, pm me for rates, usually start around $97.99/hr

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call him cat

 

If you are catholic or christian name him after an archangel / angel like samael and just call him sam or sammy. Hoping that angels will look after him.

 

It also guarantees a spot on dog heaven :^^)

 

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i moonlight as an expert on dog theology, pm me if you have any interest in reserving your dog's spot in heaven, rates start at 97.99/hr

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