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+Paraliel+    8010

This thread will serve all Ninjas deck discussion (for PvP / tournament etc. purposes, not for beating AI). A more thorough guide will be added within a few days, but for now we can use this to discuss anything about the deck.

 

The following list got first place in the November KC Cup:

 

Skill: Three Star Demotion

 

3 Black Dragon Ninja

3 Red Dragon Ninja

2 Crimson Ninja

1 Senior Silver Ninja

1 Masked Ninja Ebisu

 

3 Ninjitsu Art Notebook

1 Armor Ninjitsu Art of Alchemy

 

3 Ninjitsu Art of Transformation

3 Ninjitsu Art of Duplication

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mark    3104

I wish I could build this deck but 3 Transformation though...

 

it’s really good, not the best deck, but tournament worthy 

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Faint    5619
13 hours ago, mark said:

I wish I could build this deck but 3 Transformation though...

 

it’s really good, not the best deck, but tournament worthy 

it's a cute idea with anti meta

 

but you're right, it's very expensive to build

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Zeppelin    57
16 hours ago, mark said:

I wish I could build this deck but 3 Transformation though...

 

it’s really good, not the best deck, but tournament worthy 

Actually alot of the better players from DKayed's discord only run 2. As soon as I farm 3SD for the Paradox brothers I am going to test PVP with it. I specifically waited at Legend 1 for the banlist to see if this deck will cut it for the KC Cup 

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mark    3104

It depends on the version youre running (three star demotion or control). Both are good although each vs different types of decks, personally in KC cup I’d probably want to play Three Star if burn isn’t seeing too much play because you just kill weak decks and games finish fast. That’s important, you don’t want to play decks that go past turn 8 every game, you want to be able to finish as many games as possible per day so you want a deck that can potentially win in the first 2 turns. 

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Zeppelin    57

Oh I would for sure run 3SD, Duplication is the more important ninjitsu trap. It helps dodge dakini and gives fuel to Black Dragon Ninja' effect. 

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mark    3104

It shouldn’t be a secret that I’m not an expert in this deck (I just got my ass ftk’d by it too many times), but I think three star needs 3 while control can use 2 

 

Sure you can try with 2 (especially it you don’t have better decks), but I wouldn’t recommend digging for it when you consider that; 

 

- it’s not the best deck (may be after Rez / ca nerf but we’ll have to see)

- not playing the optimal version by only having 2x transmigation

- cyclone coming out

- 1k still leaving you vulnerable vs burn or random decks like that (although you often OTK so it’s not THAT relevant)

 

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Inti    75

Considering digging for a 2nd Transformation with my expired Nov 23rd gems though the only downside is I would have to restart the entire box. 

 

This is my idea build for 3SD Ninjas

 

Monsters:10

1x Armed Ninja

3x Black Dragon Ninja

2x Crimson Ninja 

1x Masked Ninja Ebisu 

3x Red Dragon Ninja

1x Senior Silver Ninja (He seems nutty with Dup but a terrible card to draw into to)

 

Spells:4

3x Econ

1x Ninjitsu Art Notebook 

 

Traps:6

3x Ninjitsu Art of Duplication 

1x Ninjitsu Art of Shadow Seal

2x Ninjitsu Art of Transformation 

 

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Inti    75
On 11/6/2017 at 9:31 AM, mark said:

It shouldn’t be a secret that I’m not an expert in this deck (I just got my ass ftk’d by it too many times), but I think three star needs 3 while control can use 2 

 

Sure you can try with 2 (especially it you don’t have better decks), but I wouldn’t recommend digging for it when you consider that; 

 

- it’s not the best deck (may be after Rez / ca nerf but we’ll have to see)

- not playing the optimal version by only having 2x transmigation

- cyclone coming out

- 1k still leaving you vulnerable vs burn or random decks like that (although you often OTK so it’s not THAT relevant)

 

Another thing I hear is GBs is Ninjas worse match up which I don’t get how and I am not a expert on any of those decks.

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mark    3104

no CA is

 

Ninja > GB

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CT3000    28

Been trying this deck out, really damn explosive. Running Notebook makes even 2 Trans so consistent; the deck only auto loses when you open 4 monsters. Unless something is hit soon (the skill or BDN itself) this will be a deck you run into for the foreseeable future. 

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mark    3104

ways to counter:

divine wrath

ultimate providence

cosmic cyclone

CA if you don't get outdrawn

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+Gojira    1703

Yeah, unfortunately you need 2-3 transformation. We should post an example list up though, probably the one that won the KCC.

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+Paraliel+    8010
15 minutes ago, Gojira said:

Yeah, unfortunately you need 2-3 transformation. We should post an example list up though, probably the one that won the KCC.

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Zeppelin    57
9 hours ago, Paraliel said:

I wish Judgment of Anubis worked on Cosmic Cyclone :-(

Are people starting to tech that now?

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mark    3104

judgment of Anubis sucks even if it works vs cyclone 

 

Ans although obv good, im not even sure how impactful cyclone is vs ninja rn, for example if they just summon bdn from their hand it doesn’t deal with that 

 

what do you guys think are the best 2 techs vs this deck, that are still good vs other decks?

 

Ultimate Providence

Divine Wrath

Forbidden Chalice

Cosmic Cyclone

Enemy Controller 

 

also did I miss anything relevant? 

 

Another question to the CA players: would you guys ever run the Master of Rites skill if you face a lot of ninja (say 30-40% of the field)? 

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CT3000    28

Providence could be interesting vs the traps, I hesitate to say negating monster effects should be a goal vs ninjas since RDN turns targeted cards off. But obv negating BDN is good, Chalice is a solid card in the meta in general. I toyed around with D Wrath in the KC Cup, hoping to stop Dakini's if they didn't use MAR, I'd personally tech it over something like Tribute to the Doomed tbh. Econ is kind of a joke most of the time vs the deck unless you make them use up resources

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