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Aaron    2047

Anyone buying an Oculus Quest or S tommorow? 

 

I'm getting both and returning my CV1 Rift for 399 (thank god for amazon). 

 

Quest looks incredible for portable VR. 

The S looks like an incremental upgrade where I can get rid of my sensors. 

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+rei+    34681

No. 

 

prob gonna sell my original rift and replace it with vive tech down the line 

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Aaron    2047
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5 hours ago, rei said:

No. 

 

prob gonna sell my original rift and replace it with vive tech down the line 

 

Really? The Vive and Vive Pro is probably the worst value product line at the moment in VR.

 

The only thing it has going for it is upgradability in regards to Lighthouse tracking. 

 

In regards to the Valve Index, at £919 and not not having any exclusive games to take advantage of knuckles, using LCD panels despite being close to 1k, with a very limited FOV increase and an increase in refresh rate no one in VR asked for... 

 

 

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+rei+    34681

the tracking on the rift is a fucking embarassment and their personal app is a badly coded trainwreck

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Aaron    2047
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10 hours ago, rei said:

the tracking on the rift is a fucking embarassment and their personal app is a badly coded trainwreck

rei I’m sorry but you are so misinformed on vr.

 

im very active in regards to vr gaming and probably a lot more experienced than you. A 3 sensor rift  cv1 setup is near perfect. 

 

The rift s and quest have the best inside out tracking possible at present. 

 

I rmemeber talking to you about vr before and you seemed like 2 years out of date on everything you were saying haha.

 

 

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+rei+    34681

I literally own a rift. I am complaining about my experiences in calendar year 2019 with product that was purchased new in December 2018. 

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Aaron    2047

I got an Oculus Quest. It is amazing. 

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NB96    857

Is it true the VR still doesn't have many titles of genuine quality? Maybe I just watch too many YouTube videos shitting on VR lately.

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Aaron    2047
1 hour ago, NB96 said:

Is it true the VR still doesn't have many titles of genuine quality? Maybe I just watch too many YouTube videos shitting on VR lately.

Yes.  Basically. 

 

However in practice, it really depends on how much you value immersion and how you define quality.  You really need to try a few experiences to decide how much you value that immersion and if its uncomfortable or not for you.

 

I've recently heard for example a lot of fat people saying negatives to VR pertaining to how much it makes you move lol. 

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5 hours ago, NB96 said:

Is it true the VR still doesn't have many titles of genuine quality? Maybe I just watch too many YouTube videos shitting on VR lately.

there's not a ton that's "deep" but there's still a lot of fun to be had. 

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Aaron    2047
21 minutes ago, rei said:

there's not a ton that's "deep" but there's still a lot of fun to be had. 

 

 

Yup. 

 

The best games with the most depth are still on PCVR and they have 2D/pancake versions. IMO the VR versions are superior but the amount of VR-specific AAA titles are sparse but Oculus in the next 18 months are releasing 5 amazing ones, Valve are releasing 1 or 2 and although irrelevant to PC users, Sony knock about 2-3 out a year now (FWZH, Astrobot, Blood and truth). They'd be Elite Dangerous, Project Cars, Fallout 4 (altho u need a juicy rig to run it well ; i personally use a 2080/8086k), skyrim VR (with mods basically infinite gameplay but the VR aspect is more immersion based on visuals rather than made for VR title), soon No mans Sky. 

 

There is literally no doubt that for me, playing Skyrim in VR is completely different to 2D. Actually seeing a dragon for the first time is like wtf. Similarly in Re7, walking into a dark house with no light... is scary. 

 

However the cable DOES kind of hold you back in those games a little. There are work arounds. The Rift S and Index have increased pixels per inch AND they've gone to LCD now which further increases sub pixel count so SDE and pixellation is MUCH improved compared to previous. 

 

The Quest has an OLED screen so the pixel count and subpixel layout is not good but the black levels are the best-in-class for a VR headset so far. 

 

 

 

Overall I'd really say if you are prone to getting immersed, VR is invaluable. Would I rather play Mario Tennis with a controller on my couch or go outside in my garden and literally run and smash a ball against a weird robot opponent? definitely the latter. But which game has better multiplayer and longevity in regards to content? It would sadly be the 2D version. 

 

Would I rather watch Frozen in 1080p/4k on my 65'' TV? Or would I rather watch Frozen on my Oculus Quest on a 150 inch cinema screen with PERFECT 3-D reproduction but take a hit on resolution? On my rift, i'd opt for the former but with the quest, I'd honestly go for the latter. 

 

The issue about content is there. There ARE VR games, even JUST for the Quest but the problem is the game length in general is not the best. For someone like me who doesn't care about hours spent per dollar but more about enjoyment spent per dollar, VR & the quest offers something no other form of medium can. And I don't mind if I even did complete every VR-Game on the store, it just means I'll read  a book, watch some anime, play some 2D games, play on my Switch or whatever.. 

 

Value for money, no doubt the Quest as a device is a BARGAIN. But VR as a platform is hella expensive for content you get for what you pay, but the experience is also 10-100x what you'll feel in pancake.

 

I just watched a 3D Film how the disney dragon film thing and as hes flying down, I honestly felt excited and exhilterated like flying down with him. I watched the same scene on my sofa on my TV and looked at my phone out of boredom whilst watching it. Now one of them allows me to use a rumbling subwoofer and the other means I have to strap a piece of plastic to my face. So its definitely pros vs cons. 

 

I personally think Superhot alone in a large room space with the Quest is worth the money as its just mindblowing. Its like I've played sooo many shitty FPSs but at last I am the character. I can't wait for VR-Game developers to expand and allow me to hide behind crates against enemies with awesome AIs. 

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+rei+    34681

i really need to play skyrim vr but it'd be my fourth fucking time buying skyrim and that just feels dirty to me 

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Aaron    2047

3d films on this are a blast too. on my rift they were unbearable. 

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Aaron    2047

I bought a Rift S too (fuck knows why i am just throwing money away on tech)

 

Its a HUGEEEE step up from the Rift CV1 and Vive in screen quality. the black levels are not as good but it really doesn't matter when everything is so much more clear and little to no screen door effect.  its tracking is NOT as good as light house or 3 sensor tracking. 

 

however for £399, you get: one of the clearest HMDs in the market, 2 controllers which are ergonomically second only to the index controllers but native support wise THE best, built in tracking so you can use this headset with a gaming laptop, the only high end portable VR headset (can move it room to room with minimal issues) and the best VR exclusives in the next 24 months (lone echo2, asgards wrath, defector, stormland as the AAAs)

 

Absolute bargain. its also stolen the PSVR halo strap which I thought was a bad move. I was wrong, its amazing. it also has built in audio which is absolutely shit and terrible and tinny. Luckily has a headphone jack. 

 

 

I'm next eyeing up either the HP Reverb or the Valve Index if it ever gets released. However I'm going to wait on the Index until it has at least 1 or 2 games which take advantage of the hand tracking because I like valve but I do NOT trust them when it comes to releasing games on time and im not spending 1k on a headset when all the best games are on a competitors headset. 

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+rei+    34681

yo big air quotes on portable ; ) 

 

sounds solid af 

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NB96    857

Has anybody tried Nintendo Switch Labo VR? I wonder how it and Playstation VR compare to Vive and Oculus Rift.

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everything i've read has labo VR as a novelty/joke next to everything else, something fun for 5-10 min to fuck around with

 

Not a bad use of the labo brand tbh 

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Aaron    2047
22 hours ago, NB96 said:

Has anybody tried Nintendo Switch Labo VR? I wonder how it and Playstation VR compare to Vive and Oculus Rift.

 

It’s a joke.

 

there is nothing to compare.

 

 

right now the best point of entry into vr is oculus quest or if u are poor and have a PS4 , a psvr sinply for the exclusives 

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lotta people complaining that the S doesn't track near as well as lightbox it seems 

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Aaron    2047
On 6/3/2019 at 5:40 PM, rei said:

lotta people complaining that the S doesn't track near as well as lightbox it seems 

 

yup. Light house >/= 3 Sensor tracking CV1 >>> Rift S  > Quest >>>> WMR

 

However I personally haven't had an issue with Rift S's tracking yet in-game but I haven't played FPS, Echo combat or Creed which will likely cause issues. 

 

In small spaces, 3 sensor CV1 tracking was pinpoint perfect. Light house is pinpoint perfect in all spaces tbh especially with base station 2s.

 

Rift S uses inside out tracking and despite it being the best inside out tracking, its still inside out tracking. I still ditched my CV1 with 3 sensors for it though as the clarity upgrade is INSANELY better. 

 

I've also put down a reservation for a Valve Index but yet to hear anything more from Valve sadly. I could have bought one. I was one of the first on the page but at the time, I just wasn't sold on it because its LCD. But it hit home to me that sadly OLED VR is likely dead now unless HTC continue to fly the flag. And the issue with OLED is that the subpixel count sucks compared to RGB strip LCD, so we end up getting 2-3x better clarity with LCD than OLED for the SAME performance cost which is kinda huge. 

 

As much as I do really love perfect blacks, I think chasing them will hold back VR as we need to make progress with FOV, resolution. Valve have nailed the control scheme and tracking, introduced some really weird but wonderful higher refresh rate options. The mild FOV increase sucks, it should have been more. The resolution bump is the bare minimum,  as in the BARE minimum they can offer at this price point but as an actual consumer grade product, it has to be the best on the market. Pimax is a bunch of chinese crap which is really more of a @buy this if u wanna tink with this all day rather than play games@ the HP reverb has the worst controllers in VR with the worst tracking and the worst software. 

 

Also every good VR game is an Oculus exclusive so I wouldn't mind waiting for people to tell me how well the Index works with revive to play the Oculus games. 

 

 

 

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I just played Batman Arkham VR on the Rift S and it was incredible for the last 20 minutes. I'm not sure if I'm just a pussy but man that was immersive AF. Best ending sequence to a video game I've encountered in a while. 

 

I'm going to re-mod SkyrimVR as I found an amazing modding guide to it and also my old modded Skyrim is a bit old now. I might ditch an ENB as I'd rather have 80fps. than have to ASW the entire game for an ENB... but god damn an ENB is beautiful. 

 

I'm going to likely play Lone Echo or the new Trevor game I got off of the epic store (i know im evil blahblah). 

 

I was playing South Park Fractured butt whole and I am a HUGE south park fan, but the 1 hour i played of vader immortal and the 1.5 hours of batman arkham VR were 10x more fun than 10-20 hours I've pumped into south park. Its so hard to go back to pancake. 

 

 

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