773 202 LUNA 2908 Posted October 20 unofficial vc rei - (4) Frank, TGT, MBA, Moxies Sage - (4) Diana, auri, Soph, Brandis TGT - (3) groovytony, Death, Silver Silver (3) - Haz, rei, Malcolm DVD/Cameron - (1) Woawa groovytony - (1) Walia Woawa - (1) DVD/Cameron n/v: Pure, Sage, Shade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dick van Dyke 18 Posted October 20 Me if I dont post more in like the next 10 minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
773 202 LUNA 2908 Posted October 20 there's one more hour right, 5 pm eastern = 4 pm central and it's 2:55 here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sophocles 3239 Posted October 20 Silver's a red herring imo, he deserves to die for those posts but it's not indicative of either alignment - that's a terrible play regardless if you're town or scum. I feel like we can wait and see on him don't mind a rei lynch either, keeping his vote on tgt that long then swapping to silver when the votes come in doesn't sit well with me, feels like his previous scumgames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazmah 129 Posted October 20 1 minute ago, Sophocles said: A) It is solving the game, Sage is exhibiting ant-town behaviour by choosing not to play. Your point seems to be more about 'don't kill new players' as opposed to actual scumhunting. For all intents and purposes, silver to me is a new player who's only difference from an actual new player is the amount of posts he's made. I don't care about not lynching new playes, I care about there being a substantial basis to form the lynch off of, because of a time-limit. Voting groovy for being an idiot is not strong enough reasoning. As for Sage, cool he's not playing. I can name other players who haven't played, such as Diana, such as Cameron. It's a poor reasoning, and is equivalent to a shot in the dark. The only thing that maybe slightly edges Sage, is he came up with a proactive excuse, but compare that to Silver who contradicted himself and thus actively tried to mislynch the uncc'd doc? How is sage even in the equation. 1 minute ago, Sophocles said: B) In what world could 'random shots in the dark, rather than actively trying to solve the game' good? The core approach to the game doesn't change just because new faces are playing, you just need to adjust your reads a bit I don't know what the first sentence is supposed to mean, but I'll address the second. Due to the influx of new players, town has a much higher percentage of noobs/badplayers/floaters. Scum also has a higher percentage of noobs, but they suffer significantly less because they are not trying to further gamestate and solve the game, they can stagnate discussion/mislead it and they're in a good position, as well as the fact they can actively communicate. As a result, if we waste time, as killing floaters/idiot would do, then the good players will be killed off, and scum will easily be able to take advantage and control of the gamestate easily. It's very simple logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jazz 5483 Posted October 20 Vote Count: rei - (4) Frank, TGT, MBA, Moxies Sage - (4) Diana, auri, Soph, Brandis TGT - (3) Tony, Death, Silver Silver - (3) haz, rei, Malcolm Tony - (1) Walia Dick - (1) Woawa Woawa - (1) Dick Not Voting: (4) Broken, Pure, Sage, Shade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazmah 129 Posted October 20 4 minutes ago, Sophocles said: Silver's a red herring imo, he deserves to die for those posts but it's not indicative of either alignment - that's a terrible play regardless if you're town or scum. I feel like we can wait and see on him don't mind a rei lynch either, keeping his vote on tgt that long then swapping to silver when the votes come in doesn't sit well with me, feels like his previous scumgames Alright this just smells like a partnership to me. 1) Silver is not a red-herring. It is a bad play regardless, but it has no motive if he's town. If you're town, why the fuck do you call someone town, then try to kill them whilst they're claimed doc. There is no reason. If you're scum, you attempt to mislynch the doc/easy town. It is a bad play regardless, but there is motive if scum. That is the reason why that play is scummy. 2) rei's responses have felt like towny respones to me, and also do you think there is a world where rei trades himself for tyranno? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazmah 129 Posted October 20 The fact that you're defending Silver here, whilst actively trying to mislynch Sage, when silver has played worse of the two, is suggestive of scum. The fact that you're also trying to nudge a mislynch onto rei here, who is one of the best town players, for very weak reasons, is also suggestive of scum. Very much FOS Sophocles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Brilliance 438 Posted October 20 Where the fuck did the rei wagon come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Silver 1012 Posted October 20 I’m not confirming anybody town btw, that’s just a mistake. I’m just saying that killing tyranno would def help with info as far as who is who. Fact that people keep bouncing around in votes makes me think ur either bad or your trying to catch the scum train Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Silver 1012 Posted October 20 Honestly that post by hazmah if anything serves to protect rei moreso trying to find the logic into why they made that post. Nice scum team btw 7 minutes ago, hazmah said: Alright this just smells like a partnership to me. 1) Silver is not a red-herring. It is a bad play regardless, but it has no motive if he's town. If you're town, why the fuck do you call someone town, then try to kill them whilst they're claimed doc. There is no reason. If you're scum, you attempt to mislynch the doc/easy town. It is a bad play regardless, but there is motive if scum. That is the reason why that play is scummy. 2) rei's responses have felt like towny respones to me, and also do you think there is a world where rei trades himself for tyranno? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazmah 129 Posted October 20 4 minutes ago, Silver said: I’m not confirming anybody town btw, that’s just a mistake. I’m just saying that killing tyranno would def help with info as far as who is who. Fact that people keep bouncing around in votes makes me think ur either bad or your trying to catch the scum train This is not a solid defense. I don't even understand what this is supposed to mean. Are you suggesting that you want to kill Tyranno there for info, despite the fact that you thought he was town, and he was the unc'dd doc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sophocles 3239 Posted October 20 9 minutes ago, hazmah said: As for Sage, cool he's not playing. I can name other players who haven't played, such as Diana, such as Cameron. It's a poor reasoning, and is equivalent to a shot in the dark. The only thing that maybe slightly edges Sage, is he came up with a proactive excuse, but compare that to Silver who contradicted himself and thus actively tried to mislynch the uncc'd doc? How is sage even in the equation. yeah I'm not just voting sage because he's not playing actively. Go back and read their posts and tell me that's town motivation. I'm not going to spend time analysing people who aren't even going to meet quota, as opposed to sage who posted a bunch of posts at the start of the day then dipped. 12 minutes ago, hazmah said: I don't know what the first sentence is supposed to mean I'm literally quoting you, so you tell me what 'shots in the dark can be good' means. 10 minutes ago, hazmah said: 1) Silver is not a red-herring. It is a bad play regardless, but it has no motive if he's town. If you're town, why the fuck do you call someone town, then try to kill them whilst they're claimed doc. There is no reason. If you're scum, you attempt to mislynch the doc/easy town. It is a bad play regardless, but there is motive if scum. That is the reason why that play is scummy. 2) rei's responses have felt like towny respones to me, and also do you think there is a world where rei trades himself for tyranno? Your 2nd point directly contradicts your 1st point - if scum wouldn't trade himself for tyranno, why would a scum silver do it that blatantly? I grant that the motive point is fair. I'm not saying that rei was 'trading himself' for tyranno anyway, that's obviously a bad play. I think it's more likely rei just didn't know where to go after his tyranno wagon was not a viable vote anymore and hitched on the first good opportunity that was going somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sophocles 3239 Posted October 20 9 minutes ago, Silver said: I’m not confirming anybody town btw, that’s just a mistake. I’m just saying that killing tyranno would def help with info as far as who is who. Fact that people keep bouncing around in votes makes me think ur either bad or your trying to catch the scum train ok nm he's scum lol unvote vote silver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jazz 5483 Posted October 20 Quota Count: Made - (18) auri, Brandis, Broken, Diana, Death, Frank, haz, Malcolm, MBA, Moxies, rei, Soph, TGT, Tony, Sage, Silver, Walia, Woawa Under - (3) Dick, Pure, Shade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Jazz 5483 Posted October 20 Announcement #1: Do not edit your posts!Announcment #2: I forgot to mention this, but tied lynches are decided by RNG!Announcement #3: There are only 30 minutes left in the Day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Sophocles 3239 Posted October 20 Vote Count: rei - (4) Frank, TGT, MBA, Moxies Silver - (4) haz, rei, Malcolm, Soph Sage - (3) Diana, auri, Brandis TGT - (3) Tony, Death, Silver Tony - (1) Walia Dick - (1) Woawa Woawa - (1) Dick Not Voting: (4) Broken, Pure, Sage, Shade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dick van Dyke 18 Posted October 20 If silver is scum then color me surprised. /s I'm not sure on it so I'll hold off on switching to him but we'll see in due time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woawa 11 Posted October 20 dont worry ill switch over, i know enough to recognize sketchy shit. cameron i only voted you in an attempt to make you actually play tbh unvote vote silver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Silver 1012 Posted October 20 Unvote Vote rei don’t see how me explaining my logic but you guys twist it to make it seem I’m scum would make sense unless you are legit scum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Brilliance 438 Posted October 20 Just now, Silver said: Unvote Vote rei don’t see how me explaining my logic but you guys twist it to make it seem I’m scum would make sense unless you are legit scum no Vote silver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Brilliance 438 Posted October 20 rei being scum always sorts itself out. Silver is the better kill, groovy is obvious vig bait for tonight as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Brilliance 438 Posted October 20 I'm impressed that only 3 people are under quota btw. Possibly only 2 if Cameron stops being shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Dick van Dyke 18 Posted October 20 2 minutes ago, Silver said: Unvote Vote rei don’t see how me explaining my logic but you guys twist it to make it seem I’m scum would make sense unless you are legit scum Well, Im only going off the little bit of stuff Ive kept up with, but everyone acting highly sus at the present moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites