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These cards can potentially restore the game to some sort of legitimacy.
(I thought Tengu and Tour Guide stabilized the format before last).
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They set up Leviair plays, work well with econ, and are tribute fodder for Monarchs/LaDD. They float. mmph. I definitely cannot wait for this to hit TCG.

These guys look fun. Their interactions with Tooper, Econ, and being tribute fodder in general reminds me of a decklist I was showed last format by a master doolist. (CellarDoor) Trooper and Econ are the best YGO cards. So I incorporated these into the list he sent me, and this is what I came up with:

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The first six cards are obv proxies. I just threw this together quickly, so I don't expect it to be omgamazing.
Wybuster and Collapserpent have potential somewhere. I'm gonna test a few lists when they're up on DN.
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They set up Leviair plays, work well with econ, and are tribute fodder for Monarchs/LaDD. They float. mmph. I definitely cannot wait for this to hit TCG.

These guys look fun. Their interactions with Tooper, Econ, and being tribute fodder in general reminds me of a decklist I was showed last format by a master doolist. (CellarDoor) Trooper and Econ are the best YGO cards. So I incorporated these into the list he sent me, and this is what I came up with:

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The first six cards are obv proxies. I just threw this together quickly, so I don't expect it to be omgamazing.
Wybuster and Collapserpent have potential somewhere. I'm gonna test a few lists when they're up on DN.

You could add Plaguespreader. It has combos with both the dragons.
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Although Plants are obviously not as good as they were before, Lonefire + one of these is pretty awesome.

Normal Lonefire, sack for Spore
Special either Dragon
Synch for Librarian, fetch the other Dragon
Drop the new Dragon and Spore
Synch for Level 8 and draw a card

They're really easy to drop considering that the deck plays a bunch of Light and Darks.

3 Thunder King Rai-Oh
2 Tour Guide from the Underworld
2 Spirit Reaper
2 Caius the Shadow Monarch
2 Wybuster
2 Collapserpent
2 Card Trooper
2 Debris Dragon
1 Lonefire Blossom
1 Spore
1 Dandylion
1 Sangan
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
1 Chaos Sorcerer
1 Effect Veiler
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2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Mind Control
1 Enemy Controller
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2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Torrential Tribute
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
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Then as far as fitting it into Chaos Dragons it's at least worth testing. Take this for example.

3 Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress
3 Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter
3 Lightpulsar Dragon
3 Darkflare Dragon
2 Wybuster
2 Collapserpent
2 Card Trooper
2 Tour Guide from the Underworld
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
1 Chaos Sorcerer
1 Sangan
1 Night Assailant
1 Eclipse Wyvern
1 Plaguespreader Zombie
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Tragoedia
1 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
1 Dark Armed Dragon
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3 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Solar Recharge
1 Charge of the Light Brigade
1 Monster Reborn
1 Heavy Storm
1 Dark Hole
1 Pot of Avarice
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These are just drafts, I'd prefer to have room for 3/3, but they're places to start. To whoever it was that said to play 1/1 that's a horrible idea, if you double draw or mill one of them you're completely fucked.
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Hoping that these cards won't be ultra/ulti or SCR when they come out.
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Hoping that these cards won't be ultra/ulti or SCR when they come out.

... They're Dragons. Who are work as essentially as Reborn Tengus. They're Chaos. I entirely expect them to be Ult/Scr, and for Konami to give us a further Star Themed Dragon Deck to make you rock shit with these guys and the Dragons Collide Structure Deck.
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no don't get me wrong they obviously will be I'm just hoping they wouldn't be haha
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I really like this kind of card, and they seem really cool to work with and play with. However, fuck their atk/def values. 1700/1800 guy stalls really well against the 1800/1700 guy, which can and will prove extremely annoying in situations where the game is simplified and these guys are the only things left.
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At least they're not Dinosaurs.
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Names are wrong

Wyburstar and Collapsarpent

Wyvern+Burstar

Collapsar + Serpent


a Burstar is like a Pulsar - a star that gives off bursts is a Burstar, and a star that gives off a pulse is a Pulsar

a collapsar is what it sounds like: a collapsing star, collapsing because its mass is so immense that it can't help but collapse on itself due to gravity. Black holes are essentially the final form of collapsars - they're stars that have so much mass (and thus so much gravity) that even light itself is drawn toward them, rather than away.
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I still say Wyburstar's is meant to sound like Wybuster for a certain mecha-related reason, but yeah.

We did the research.
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they finally got these fuckers on DN
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Consider it a late Christmas Present from the org.

And on that note, this duo brings up some interesting possibilities in Chaos Dragons.

One being Queen Dragun Djinn and other Rank4 spam cards to bring back Pulsar and the likes or disrupt plays.

Another being LIGHT Xyz and DARK Xyz in addition to the existing pool, granting you access to Thanatos, Omega, Paladius, and Nightmare. All of which are potent disruption cards.

And I still need to figure out what kind of Synchro deck I want to make with these guys. :/ Anybody got any ideas?
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i take back anything I said/thought about running it in 2/2.

3/3 staple.
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I think these cards are very good but I think people are throwing them into the chaos boat way too quickly. In fact, if these cards do eventually see play I think they would see it in either a new type of synchro build or some sort of monarch/tribute deck. Considering they can't be normal summoned and can only use each of their SS effects once per turn hinders how much you can abuse them and nowadays if you can't abuse the fuck out of something it probably isn't going to be played.
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i take back anything I said/thought about running it in 2/2.

3/3 staple.


Yeah I found this pretty early on in testing, 3/3 is so good
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Yeah, you don't really want to xyz summon with them because you cut off the chain of getting one after the other.
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so these dont miss timing? I want to make sure before making any other variants.
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so these dont miss timing? I want to make sure before making any other variants.


it's current text reads "if+you can" so it shouldn't miss timing
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The FINAL text reads if+can. The cards are already out in Japan.
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I've been waiting for good level 4 monster that can SS itself from hand forever

Then konami made them light and dark

Then konami made them floaters that could search other

Thx konami, bring to tcg ASAP please?
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Probably heavily depends on what 805 (The set in April for the OCG/August or so for the TCG) is themed around. I have this sneaking suspicion Konami is planning something with stars.

But I'd really love to see these guys, Lightpulsar and Darkflare find a way to get together for fun times.
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Anyone ever consider Black Salvo with these guys.

For Darks, you have Salvo, Dekoichi, and the Ebony himself
Lights, you have Genex Neutron, Cyber Dragon, Thunder King, and Ivory.

Lets you fight those effect veilers on Salvo, Special the Dragon, synchro Black Rose, and search.

Ofcourse you run the other Chaos Guys, and DaD.

Also:


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and Dimensional Alchemist has some synergy too.
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Probably heavily depends on what 805 (The set in April for the OCG/August or so for the TCG) is themed around. I have this sneaking suspicion Konami is planning something with stars.

But I'd really love to see these guys, Lightpulsar and Darkflare find a way to get together for fun times.


Don't we already have Constellars and Fire Formation that is somewhat already themed about the stars? And Agents (planets)?
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Those are more constellations and planets. The recent couple of dragons are the types of stars. Nit picking, but Konami seems to run with nitpicking for themes.
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I think everyone might be over thinking things. At first glance, I believed these to be good for the tribute summoning aspect. It brings speed and consistency to the deck, when you can summon a dark flare for free and get fodder for its effect also, which is one of the best plays you have. Combos with wyvern, etc. I've already been testing it over troopers, while swapping other cards around.
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Chaos plant 2.0, i called it.

Honestly i think these dragons are alot better for synchro/tribute based decks then for chaos dragon
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Those are more constellations and planets. The recent couple of dragons are the types of stars. Nit picking, but Konami seems to run with nitpicking for themes.


Oh god what if

LIGHT Synchro Super Nova Dragon
DARK Xyz Black Hole Dragon
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Super bump! What does everyone think of these cards now? I am having trouble finding a home for them to play around with. Theres your typical dragons, but im stuck past that


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are these guys out now


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Super bump! What does everyone think of these cards now? I am having trouble finding a home for them to play around with. Theres your typical dragons, but im stuck past that

Some kind of twilight deck with these guys, Necro Gardnas, Raiden, Minerva, and Garoth. With a little setup, Minerva becomes a one-card BRD and you're almost guaranteed some kind of play the following turn.


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are these guys out now

 

Yes, they are in Shadow Specters.


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Were it not for the new Noble Knights, these are probably my favorite cards in the set. 


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Main thing I'm after in this set are these guys and the Plant xyz....Just got loads of ideas to play around with :) 


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I got my sets within 5 min at my sneak, ezpz. If e-drags get smacked on the list, expect these cards to make noise next format. Until then, they will sit on my desk.
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Got 6 of these, unfortunately 4 Lights, 2 Darks.

 

Anyway, they're very interesting cards. You could make a MonsterMash Chaos along with Witch of the Black Rose or some sort of GadgetChaosEsque thing. Being Light/Dark they're also fodder for Lightpulsar if you draw into copies. They're a really nice set of commons to have to say the least.


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I'm completely bored with the format and have no relevant events, so going to mess around with chaos variants. Got my set with ease, was happy to find they weren't short print. 


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Monsters: 32

3 Black Dragon Collapserpant

3 White Dragon Wyverburster

3 Galaxy Serpant

1 Wattaildragon

1 Curse of Dragon

3 Hieratic Dragon of Tefnuit

3 Darkflare Dragon

3 Lightpulsar Dragon

3 Destiny Hero - Malicious

2 Eclipse Wyvern

2 Plaguespreader Zombie

1 Honest

1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

1 Chaos Sorcerer

1 Dark Armed Dragon

1 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
 
Spells: 10
3 Dragon Shrine
3 Dragon Ravine
1 Allure of Darkness
3 Hieratic Seal of Convocation
 
this is honestly one of the coolest decks I've ever played. 

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aggressive as fuck.dek, literally the game plan is drop your hand for 8K every game. 


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