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March 2012 Format Rabbit Needs TGU

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#81
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Have you guys tested Forbidden Lance yet? I've seen it in a lot of Japanese builds and it makes a lot of sense. Maybe because of TGU it is less useful because your doing other shit?
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Have you guys tested Forbidden Lance yet? I've seen it in a lot of Japanese builds and it makes a lot of sense. Maybe because of TGU it is less useful because your doing other shit?

Besides the obvious "protect the kaiser" uses that Lance has, it also works w/ the Jurracs (which is why some run shrink as well). If TCG builds move away from the Kaiser-Jurrac centered decks to instead focus on Rabbit-TGU, I don't know if Lance is as useful.
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Have you guys tested Forbidden Lance yet? I've seen it in a lot of Japanese builds and it makes a lot of sense. Maybe because of TGU it is less useful because your doing other shit?

Besides the obvious "protect the kaiser" uses that Lance has, it also works w/ the Jurracs (which is why some run shrink as well). If TCG builds move away from the Kaiser-Jurrac centered decks to instead focus on Rabbit-TGU, I don't know if Lance is as useful.

The obvious problem from there being, where does the deck go in the TCG (for now) besides the Lagia/Dino route? Utopia and Roach are both fine cards, but nothing to build a deck around.

This is what I've been fooling around with on DN:
3 Kabazauls
3 Jurrac Guaiba
3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Sabersaurus
3 Tour Guide from the Underworld
1 Jurrac Velo
1 Sangan

3 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Pot of Duality
2 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Dark Hole
1 Forbidden Lance
1 Fossil Dig
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster Reborn

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Dimensional Prison
1 Mirror Force
1 Starlight Road
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 No. 17, Leviathan Dragon
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
3 Evolkaiser Lagia
1 No. 39, Utopia
1 Steelswarm Roach
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This is what I've been fooling around with on DN:
3 Kabazauls
3 Jurrac Guaiba
3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Sabersaurus
3 Tour Guide from the Underworld
1 Jurrac Velo
1 Sangan

3 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Pot of Duality
2 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Dark Hole
1 Forbidden Lance
1 Fossil Dig
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster Reborn

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Dimensional Prison
1 Mirror Force
1 Starlight Road
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 No. 17, Leviathan Dragon
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
3 Evolkaiser Lagia
1 No. 39, Utopia
1 Steelswarm Roach


I tested what is essentially this build. It was the best one I have played yet. I came back here to post it and saw that you already thought of what I was going to propose (3 Sabersarus/3 Kabazuls). In a lot of ways, this deck is Six Samurai 2.0.


TOTAL: 40

Monster: 18

3 Sabersaurus
3 Kabazauls
3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Tour Guide from the Underworld
3 Jurrac Guaiba
1 Jurrac Velo
1 Sangan
1 Genex Ally Birdman

Spell: 14

3 Pot of Duality
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Gold Sarcophagus
2 Forbidden Lance
1 Monster Reborn
1 Heavy Storm
1 Dark Hole
1 Book of Moon
1 Enemy Controller

Trap: 8

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Mirror Force

3 Evolkaiser Lagia
2 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Steelswarm Roach
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier


EDIT: I want to play magical mallet in here sometimes. Obviously, I won't. But I die a little inside every time I do something like "Sabersarus and Rabbit in hand. Draw into 2nd Sabersarus."
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Price holds no barring on wether or not a card should be played In a competitive sense.
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Price holds no barring on wether or not a card should be played In a competitive sense.

But it does effect how often you can plan on seeing it in competition.
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EDIT: I want to play magical mallet in here sometimes. Obviously, I won't. But I die a little inside every time I do something like "Sabersarus and Rabbit in hand. Draw into 2nd Sabersarus."


Your best option is probably Moray of Greed + Kabazauls and Hydroggedon.

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I remember back in the old days, people played:

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LIGHT for Chaos, Machine, etc.

Since this deck already plays Forbidden Lance, BoM, Econs, to support Jurracs and sometimes even Hydroggedon in Moray of Greed variants, it could support this as well.
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sup Daigusto Emerald
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A couple of thoughts:

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If you play Lagia variants with Fossil Dig, there is no reason not to play this. An easy out to Gachi Gachi, Windup Zenmaines, etc. plus it also works while set facedown, yes please.

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Regarding Rescue Rabbit variants, I honest think Plants are the way to go.

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Searched by Lonefire and can XYZ with Debris Dragon.

The main thing to keep in mind is the enemy controller effect lets you get off Jurracs into Lagia.

Also, last but not least, Rescue Rabbit + GUB into one card Trishula wins games outright.
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Anyone remember this?

Chris Mooseman SJC Seattle 2006 Top 8



Monsters – 19

3 Cyber Dragon
1 Banisher of the Radiance
1 Asura Priest
2 Drillroid
3 Hydrogeddon
2 Prickle Fairy
2 Exiled Force
1 D. D. Assailant
1 D. D. Warrior
1 Don Zaloog
1 Breaker the Magical Warrior

Spells – 14
1 Book of Moon
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Graceful Charity
2 Reinforcement of the Army
1 Heavy Storm
2 Smashing Ground
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Confiscation
1 Nobleman of Crossout
2 Enemy Controller
1 Rush Recklessly

Traps – 7

3 Sakuretsu Armor
1 Blast with Chain
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Ring of Destruction

Side Deck:
2 Banisher of the Radiance
2 Sand Moth
1 Asura Priest
1 Mobius the Frost Monarch
2 Wave-Motion Cannon
1 Rush Recklessly
3 Trap Dustshoot
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Mask of Restrict


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Wait - how is prickle fairy working with Rabbit?
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Wait - how is prickle fairy working with Rabbit?

I assume he means as a side engine, possible instead of TGU, since I see nothing else to remove.

And he just means it lets you control the battlefield, not an actual Rabbit target.
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Wait - how is prickle fairy working with Rabbit?


It doesn't, it works with Hydroggedon and Guiaba who both make one card Lagia and Trishula (via GUB) (same as Rescue Rabbit).

If you wanted to fit in Rabbit, it would be with Hydroggedon and Kabazauls, with Moray of Greed being the link.

2000 DEF to block boosted Venus, 300 ATK to XYZ off Debris Dragon, etc. are all nice perks.
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Vortex Trooper might be kind of interesting to solve the "too many normals in hand" paradigm. I really hate how drawing that second normal can make so many things dead :\. But, like Moray of Greed, there is no guarantee you won't draw the normals again.


In addition, I'm thinking something with Rescue Rabbit into 2 Level 3 Tuners + Instant Fusion can make Bureido + Burei + Monster, which is pretty nice. Also having Normals that are tuners gives them extra utility in hand (other than the boring 1900 atk beater).
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I guess I'm not understanding this Plant/Prickle Fairy thing. Do you mean you could run Dinos like that, but without Rabbit?
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he's saying you run prickle fairy in the deck with plants with the rabbit engine so that if someone attacks into prickle fairy you can get guaiba's effect off easily.
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he's saying you run prickle fairy in the deck with plants with the rabbit engine so that if someone attacks into prickle fairy you can get guaiba's effect off easily.

Oh...id probably prefer to be proactive and use Lance/Econ/Book instead.
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he's saying you run prickle fairy in the deck with plants with the rabbit engine so that if someone attacks into prickle fairy you can get guaiba's effect off easily.

Oh...id probably prefer to be proactive and use Lance/Econ/Book instead.

His point was that those don't lead into Trish-plays like Prickle does if she survives combat.
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I got a little excited and started playing with some DT13 cards, and came up with this:

3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Sabersaurus
3 Tour Guide from the Underworld
3 Verz Heliotrope
3 Verz Mandrago
1 Dark Armed Dragon
1 Glow-Up Bulb
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Sangan

3 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Pot of Duality
2 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Dark Calling
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Avarice

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

1 Evil HERO Dark Gaia
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Naturia Beast
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 17, Leviathan Dragon
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
2 Evolkaiser Lagia
2 Verz Bahamut
1 Daigusto Emeral
1 Gemknight Pearl
1 Lavalval Chain
1 Vylon Disigma

Bahamut is amazing, no doubt, but tbh Emeral is just as much of the star here.
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fuck this deck with Doikka around the corner.


T1 Tour Guide -> Sarco into Leviair+Laggia.
T2 Rabbit into Doikka.




if this isn't a top contender then I'll be extremely surprised.
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What's a Doikka?
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http://www.yugioh-ca...ts/bp-phsw.html

Exclusive Evol XYZ that negates monster effects.
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HAAAAAAA...holy shit its rank 4. I assume it is a "remove 2 materials"

Amazing card....if Lagia wasn't already better. (although i can't see ATK)
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i believe atk's 2100. so yeah, lagia is obv better overall
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they are both awesome and should both be run imo
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3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Tour Guide From the Under World
3 Jurrac Guaiba
2 Elemental Hero Sparkman
2 Elemental Hero Burstinatrix
2 Kabouzals
1 Jurrac Velo
1 Sangan

3 Gold Sarcophagus
2 Parrallel World Fusion
2 Miracle Fusion
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Forbidden Lance
1 Heavy Storm
1 Dark Hole
1 Book of Moon
1 Monster Reborn

3 Macro Cosmos
2 Bottomless Traphole/ Solemn Warning (debating on which one BTH says no to krystia, and dark world. Warning is warning.... We will see)
1 Starlight Road
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Solemn Judgement

Extra Deck
2 Elemental Hero Absolute Zero
2 Elemental Hero Nova Master
1 Elemental Hero The Shining
1 Stardust Dragon
2 Evolkaiser Lagia
1 Evolzar Dolkka
1 No.39 Utopia
1 Steelswarm Roach
2 Leviair the Sea Dragon
2 Windup Zenmaines

Side deck.......... I have no fucking Clue
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they are both awesome and should both be run imo

I think you obviously run both but it's going to be a 3/1 or 2/1 ratio.
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this is gonna be the best deck of the format.
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Have you tested it? The fact that you have to run about 6 Normal Monsters gives the deck some legitimate problems.
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One I've been messing with on DN

Monsters: 20
3 Kabazauls
3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Sabersaurus
3 Tour Guide From the Overworld
2 Cyber Dragon
2 Maxx "C"
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
1 Effect Veiler
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Sangan

Spells: 14
2 Instant Fusion
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Enemy Controller
1 Forbidden Lance
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mind Control
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Avarice

Traps: 8
2 Fiendish Chain
2 Solemn Warning
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

Extra:
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Daigusto Emeral
1 Darkfire Dragon
1 Evolzar Dolkka (not on DN obv, Gem-Knight instead)
2 Evolzar Laggia
1 Flame Ghost
1 Lavalval Chain
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 19: Freezerdon
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Number 61: Volcasaurus
1 Reaper on the Nightmare
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
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i believe atk's 2100. so yeah, lagia is obv better overall

Its actually 2300 atk.

But overall, SCR Rabbit is going to be bitch to get now. As it wasn't enough already. :S
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Daigusto Emeral

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2 Level 4 monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to activate 1 of the following effects: ●Target 3 monsters in your Graveyard and shuffle them into your Deck; draw 1 card. ●Target 1 Non-Effect Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
http://yugioh.wikia....Daigusto_Emeral

Fuckkkkkkk
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Daigusto Emeral

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2 Level 4 monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to activate 1 of the following effects: ●Target 3 monsters in your Graveyard and shuffle them into your Deck; draw 1 card. ●Target 1 Non-Effect Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
http://yugioh.wikia....Daigusto_Emeral

Fuckkkkkkk

Wow. Essentially designed for rabbit.dek
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Daigusto Emeral

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This card is just ridiculous and helps the cycling of the deck that much more. An avarice on legs essentially.
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One I've been messing with on DN

Monsters: 20
3 Kabazauls
3 Rescue Rabbit
3 Sabersaurus
3 Tour Guide From the Overworld
2 Cyber Dragon
2 Maxx "C"
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
1 Effect Veiler
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Sangan

Spells: 14
2 Instant Fusion
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Enemy Controller
1 Forbidden Lance
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mind Control
1 Monster Reborn
1 Pot of Avarice

Traps: 8
2 Fiendish Chain
2 Solemn Warning
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

Extra:
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Daigusto Emeral
1 Darkfire Dragon
1 Evolzar Dolkka (not on DN obv, Gem-Knight instead)
2 Evolzar Laggia
1 Flame Ghost
1 Lavalval Chain
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 19: Freezerdon
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Number 61: Volcasaurus
1 Reaper on the Nightmare
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines



how has maxx c been testing?
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this is gonna be the best deck of the format.

want to make a bet?
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Daigusto Emeral

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2 Level 4 monsters
Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to activate 1 of the following effects: ●Target 3 monsters in your Graveyard and shuffle them into your Deck; draw 1 card. ●Target 1 Non-Effect Monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it.
http://yugioh.wikia....Daigusto_Emeral

Fuckkkkkkk

Wow. Essentially designed for rabbit.dek


Isn't this like a year+ away from the TCG?



Has anyone tested Common Charity? It seems good in theory, although I could picture drawing more normals off of it and raging.
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Has anyone tested Common Charity? It seems good in theory, although I could picture drawing more normals off of it and raging.

I had tech'd 1 in a Rabbit line up of 6 vanilla dinos. It was actually decent. Setting it when you draw the vanilla, and chaining to an mst or something. But not worth it in the end imo
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Maxx c seems like shit in here
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