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The Official Goat Format Thread (April 2005 TCG/DB2 pre-NTR/CT2/CRV)

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Haruki    9174




Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Fiber Jar
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Witch of the Black Forest

Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Change of Heart
Dark Hole
Harpie's Feather Duster
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
The Forceful Sentry

Imperial Order




Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Cyber Jar
Dark Magician of Chaos
D.D. Warrior Lady
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Injection Fairy Lily
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Morphing Jar
Protector of the Sanctuary
Reflect Bounder
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Sinister Serpent
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth

Card Destruction
Delinquent Duo
Graceful Charity
Heavy Storm
Lightning Vortex
Mage Power
Mystical Space Typhoon
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
United We Stand

Call of the Haunted
Deck Devastation Virus
Magic Cylinder
Mirror Force
Reckless Greed
Ring of Destruction
Torrential Tribute




Abyss Soldier
Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow
Manticore of Darkness
Marauding Captain
Night Assailant
Vampire Lord

Creature Swap
Emergency Provisions
Level Limit - Area B
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army
Upstart Goblin

Good Goblin Housekeeping
Gravity Bind
Last Turn


All Legal Sets up to April 1, 2005:


Sets and Starter/Structure Decks: Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon, Yugi and Kaiba Starter Decks, Metal Raiders, Magic/Spell Ruler, Pharaoh's Servant, Joey and Pegasus Starter Decks, Labyrinth of Nightmare, Legacy of Darkness, Pharaonic Guardian, Magician's Force, Dark Crisis, Yugi and Kaiba Evolution Decks, Invasion of Chaos, Ancient Sanctuary, Soul of the Duelist, Dark Beginning 1, Rise of Destiny, Flaming Eternity, Dark Revelation 1, The Lost Millennium, Dragon’s Roar, Zombie Madness, Blaze of Destruction, Fury from the Deep, Dark Beginning 2.

Promo Cards: BPT, CMC, CP01, CT1, DBT, DDS, DMG, DL1, DL2, DL3, DL4, DL5, DL6, DL7, DL8, DOD (excluding “The Winged Dragon of Ra”), DOR, EDS, EP1, FMR, JMP (excluding “Obelisk the Tormentor”), MC1, MOV, MP1, PCJ, PCK, PCY, ROD, SDD, SJC, SP1, TFK, TP1, TP2, TP3, TP4, TP5, TP6, TSC, WC4, WC5.



This format had a number of key ruling changes and product releases that make it difficult to pinpoint a single point in time to "go back to" in order to play it retrospectively. This is an abridged timeline of these changes and releases, as far as 2005 premier event play was concerned, along with the dates of every SJC event that took place during the format:



April 1-2: SJC Pomona
April 29-30: SJC Houston

May 9: Blaze of Destruction (SD3) and Fury from the Deep (SD4) released

June 1: New battle position change ruling
June 1: Tournament Pack 6 (TP6) released
June 10-11: SJC New Jersey
June 15: The Lost Millennium (TLM) legal for premier events
June 24-25: SJC Charlotte

July 1: New end-of-match procedures
July 8-9: SJC Seattle
July 27: Dark Beginning 2 (DB2) released

August 19-20: SJC Indianapolis
August 30: Nightmare Troubadour (NTR) released

September 1: Collectible Tins 2005 (CT2) released
September 1: Cybernetic Revolution (CRV) legal for premier event
September 9-10: SJC Boston


That's a lot of changes! Fortunately, it's not quite as complicated as it looks. Broadly speaking, the history of the format is typically broken up into three phases or "versions." The "battle position change ruling" mentioned on June 1 was the change in mechanics that allowed a monster to change its battle position manually after having its position changed earlier in the turn by a card effect. Prior to June 1, if you Normal Summoned a Tsukuyomi at the start of your Main Phase 1 and targeted your own Thousand-Eyes Restrict, you could not flip the TER back up to Attack Position during the same turn. Similarly, if your opponent used Enemy Controller on your Gemini Elf during your own turn to shift it to Defense Position, you would not be able to turn it back to Attack Position during that same turn. The version of the format with these mechanics is colloquially referred to as "Wilson Luc Goat," and two SJCs were played in it: SJC Pomona and SJC Houston.


SJC New Jersey (June 10-11) is considered the first traditional Goat Format SJC event. However, a number of set releases occurred afterwards that affected the format in various ways. The Lost Millennium (June 15) adds Brain Control, amongst other things, to the format, and Dark Beginning 2 (July 27) made no notable original contribution to the cardpool but made Morphing Jar and Cyber-Stein available to the general public, each of which are hugely impactful to the metagame. Most people at casual and competitive levels choose to play Goat Format with the cardpool and mechanics of SJC Indianapolis (August 19-20). This is typically referred to as "pre-Exarion Goat" or "Standard Goat."


Indy was the last event before the release of Exarion Universe and Cyber Dragon, both of which were legal for the final event of the format, SJC Boston (September 9-10). Cyber Dragon and Exarion Universe are both notoriously format-warping, but the three set releases between Indy and Boston each had more to add to the format than those two cards alone. Nightmare Troubadour (August 30) was a video game that came with three promotional cards, two of which (Silent Magician LV4 and Magician's Circle) are relevant to fringe strategies in the modern format such as Chaos Recruiter and Gravekeeper. The second wave of Collectible Tins (September 1) added Rocket Warrior, Vorse Raider, and Panther Warrior to the mix in addition to Exarion Universe. Finally, Cybernetic Revolution (legal for premier events on September 1) changed the entire meaning of Metamorphosis with the release of Cyber Twin Dragon, and added a host of other fringe cards that often fly under the radar of modern casual Goat players such as Drillroid, Goblin Elite Attack Force, Dimension Wall, and Magical Explosion. These versions of the format are typically seen as fast at best and degenerate at worst, but nonetheless, there are still many communities who play "Exarion Goat" and/or "CRV Goat" at casual and even competitive levels. I haven't heard of anyone playing "NTR Goat" yet, but I'm sure there's someone out there who insists that they're able to play Magician's Circle while other people can't play Exarion Universe. Technically, you can argue for a version of "CRV Goat" without CT2 as well, since CRV was available and used at local and regional levels for about two weeks before its premier event legality date.


More recently, there have been movements to begin modified, custom formats based on some of these versions of Goat Format. The most notable, Newgioh, developed a cult following up until its discontinuation in 2016, and many of its players have moved on to successor projects such as Format Library's Nova Format or Relapse's Goat Minus Format. Many of these formats are designed with specific visions in mind that attempt to go beyond the limits of traditional Goat Format while retaining the "feel" of various fan favorite aspects such as grindy control mirrors or the occasional beatdown-based matchup. Those that begin with initial modifications to the Forbidden/Limited list with new additions to the cardpool are broadly termed "Goat Plus" formats, while those that limit their changes solely to Forbidden/Limited list additions and adjustments are typically called "Goat Minus" formats.


Goat Control has been kept alive to this day by a rich and storied grassroots community. DuelistGroundz has been at the core of this community from the very beginning, with our very own Max Suffridge (all RIP) taking the crown of U.S. National Champion with a Goat Control deck that is still netdecked by new Goat players to this day. In 2012, DuelistGroundz hosted its first Goat Controller Tournament, which kickstarted the so-called "post-historic" eras of the format and inspired other independent TOs such as HobbyTown USA and ToyWiz to host their own, in-person Goat tournaments throughout 2013 and 2014. That wave of Goat hype peaked in the Golden Goat War League hosted once again on DuelistGroundz in the summer of 2014, the tournament that put Kris Perovic's now-famous Exarion Goat decklist on the map. 


Today, Goat activity on the internet centers around three major and loosely-connected communities: DuelistGroundz, Format Library, and Nostalgic Duelist. All of them have run at least one circuit of online tournaments in the past year. DuelistGroundz continues its War League/Seasonal Playoff program to this day, and this year that program was joined by the returning DuelistGroundz Championship Series in DGz's thick lineup of Goat competition. With a lot of hard work from Jazz, Ynusgridorh, and MMF, Format Library began its own independent series of Format Library Championships this year as well. Europe even has a semi-recurring live event circuit in the form of Card Sports League's Challenge Tour Stops, which have enabled European players to qualify for CSL's annual Invitational by playing in regional-tier events that are occasionally hosted as side events in Goat Format at larger YCS/CSL events. Lastly, GoatStats now provides a centralized hub of resources and statistics for players both new and old as well as a community-run ranking system mirroring what ChampRank once was for advanced format TCG players (RIP).


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ryanjavery    53

Just wondering what when is the cut off point for the format is, like what set, and what is the list like? I wanna try experimenting with card choice but don't know how to keep it legal.

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Haruki    9174

no crv and on

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ryanjavery    53
[quote name='dolphin' timestamp='1338728725' post='3197930']

no crv and on

Cool time to start tinkering/

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cum    364
I'd love to learn how to play goat format as someone who never got the opportunity to play in that format. If anyone is willing to play against a trashy player to help them learn the format, I'm on duelingnetwork or yvd, name's -SF- on both.

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»orangeeyes    11863

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Haruki    9174
crv includes exarion but w/e

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actually exarion was legal roughly a week before crv was, so no crv does not technically include it.

while i prefer to play pre-crv (with exarion legal), i don't really care what timeframe as long as you let me know beforehand.


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cum    364
Just played some games against brotacular, ggs bro.

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Canadian    701

Official Banlist for TCG during Goat Control.

Just to clear up any confusing about MoF ect..

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Haruki    9174
fuck exarion u mad niggas

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Haruki    9174
i use tea as my picture everyone loves me

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-L2theZ-    1611

Also in the camp of fuck CRV and indifferent about Exarion.

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Haruki    9174
yeah just updated and made it clear in the op

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Haruki    9174
ok since ppl love exarion's cock so much you can use it but i'm not using it cuz some ppl might not like it :P

(or maybe in my side i had enraged battle ox)

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Haruki    9174

[b][size=8][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]all sets up to tlm. fuck crv and everything else. exarion is legal - if your opponent uses it and you didn't know you could use it then tough shit[/font][/size][/b]

hope i made some niggas happy or not care

it's official

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