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Kyary    2424

Klaus is still a bitch

 

Agreed

 

Why is Jerry banned again and why is steve banned?

 

Jerry got banned for the same thing Alistar did I think.  And which Steve?

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»Digbick    7258

fuck konami

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Naythin    4650

Why is Jerry banned again and why is steve banned?

 

Jerry got banned for the same thing Alistar did I think.  And which Steve?

 

Being the realist nigga in the game?

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Kyary    2424

Yeah :<

 

Thank god we have them at the ARG circuits now tho

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Slashtap    2347

 

Why is Jerry banned again and why is steve banned?

 

Jerry got banned for the same thing Alistar did I think.  And which Steve?

 

Being the realist nigga in the game?

 

While this is true, could someone spell it out for me?  Fading memory + uncertainty about my sources leaves me unable to tease apart fact from fiction with these two.  With Alistar it's: he was selling cards and he had a trouble with the law outside of Yugioh?  And Jerry?

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+scuzzlebutt    23495

 

 

Why is Jerry banned again and why is steve banned?

 

Jerry got banned for the same thing Alistar did I think.  And which Steve?

 

Being the realist nigga in the game?

 

While this is true, could someone spell it out for me?  Fading memory + uncertainty about my sources leaves me unable to tease apart fact from fiction with these two.  With Alistar it's: he was selling cards and he had a trouble with the law outside of Yugioh?  And Jerry?

jerry and alistar got pulled over at ycs rhode island or something and both were arrested for something (2 different things if i remember correctly, alistar had like a bunch of cell phones or something idr what jerrys story was). they were both let off, but not in konami's eyes. guilty until proven innocent

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Groot    526

I think it's completely absurd for Konami to ban someone for something completely unrelated to their Tournaments/YCS policies.

 

Like okay, you got arrested for something on your way home from an event? BANNED. Stole an alligator? BANNED. Got into a argument with your best friends mother, for eating her last croissant that's been sitting in her fridge the last 2 days so you thought it was fair game? BANNED.

 

I get that it's bad publicity on their part, but like.. it's a fucking children's card game, treat is as such. There are people out there playing this game that are infinitely more scummier then any of these people, yet they are continue welcomed at these events. YCS events usually maintain at least a 1000 people at any given event. I'll put money on it that at least 10 of those people could have a mental illness and could literally stab someone for turning the pages of their binders the wrong way, or better yet, HAS killed someone for less.

 

ARG Circuit Series is the best thing to happen to competitive YGO since Metagame, and it's easy to see that they aren't biased at all. 

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+scuzzlebutt    23495

alistar and jerry are banned under the patriot act

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+Paraliel+    8031

On the other hand though, Konami isn't the only company that bans people for things they don't like that don't entirely relate to the game at hand. If I recall, Wizards tends to do this with Magic players as well.

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Brian Clark    430

On the other hand though, Konami isn't the only company that bans people for things they don't like that don't entirely relate to the game at hand. If I recall, Wizards tends to do this with Magic players as well.

patrick chapin spent years in prison for drug trafficking and is now one of the communitys more respected members I think its safe to say that wizards unlike konami accepts that people can change

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On the other hand though, Konami isn't the only company that bans people for things they don't like that don't entirely relate to the game at hand. If I recall, Wizards tends to do this with Magic players as well.

patrick chapin spent years in prison for drug trafficking and is now one of the communitys more respected members I think its safe to say that wizards unlike konami accepts that people can change

 

it's not like anyone who's been banned at a ygo event ever been behind bars and if they did, their sentence would be served by the time they're reinstated.

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Joe.    4932
It is actually widely believed that Patrick Chapin murdered a witness from his case. But he writes great articles/books so it is okay.
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Twitter    2057
Ed <\3 :-(

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Lux    1558

didn't brent yetter get like a ten year ban for setting off fireworks in his hotel room


It was in the bathroom at the hotel venue the event was being held in. Police came and escorted him out of the venue during round 10 when he was X-0 or X-1. He doesn't like talking about it from what he told me at an event he was at last year.

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Patrick Hoban    6364
[quote name="Lux" post="3628690" timestamp="1385292293"][quote name="Marcus" post="3627795" timestamp="1385164854"] didn't brent yetter get like a ten year ban for setting off fireworks in his hotel room[/quote] It was in the bathroom at the hotel venue the event was being held in. Police came and escorted him out of the venue during round 10 when he was X-0 or X-1. He doesn't like talking about it from what he told me at an event he was at last year.[/quote] He's a savage cheater anyway.

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»John Danker    945

If KDE didn't believe in giving people second chances, they wouldn't have a process to be reinstated for players to be in good standing again.

You guys crack me up, you whine, piss, and moan about KDE doing nothing about cheaters, then when someone gets suspended you whine, piss, and moan that people get suspended.

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Miss Click    2475

If KDE didn't believe in giving people second chances, they wouldn't have a process to be reinstated for players to be in good standing again.

You guys crack me up, you whine, piss, and moan about KDE doing nothing about cheaters, then when someone gets suspended you whine, piss, and moan that people get suspended.

 

That's a broad generalization of what exactly people are bitching about, which is KDE banning/suspending people for things that didn't take place within the tournament venue. It really isn't any of their business if you stole an alligator or not etc. Hell, what does that even fall under within their set of infractions.

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»Pharaoh Atem    15769

Considering KDE sets the policies, it is in fact their business insofar as the policies dictate.

 

Entering an event venue is tacit agreement to following said policies: remember, we even reserve the right to enter a non-player into an event JUST TO DISQUALIFY HIM IF HE BEHAVES IN A WAY THAT FITS A DQ PENALTY.

If someone, even a non-player, has conduct that doesn't belong at an event, then we reserve the right to remove them from that event.

 

 

 

Theft is not tolerated among tournamentgoers. This should be pretty fucking obvious in the documents, and whether or not someone stole something while at the venue doesn't matter: criminals are not welcome, and stealing a non-venue item is still stealing.

 

The distinction you make is entirely irrelevant to the power of the documents.

 

 

 

Give me other cases and incidents, and we'll hash out what should and should not be done, and why.

Unlike John, I'm not going to claim y'all aren't reasonable. You very well can be. The real test is in whether or not you all trust me.

 

I'm not saying the test is in whether or not you trust judges in the abstract:

 

I'm saying the test is in whether or not you trust ME, this one particular judge, right here, right now.

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»John Danker    945

If KDE didn't believe in giving people second chances, they wouldn't have a process to be reinstated for players to be in good standing again.

You guys crack me up, you whine, piss, and moan about KDE doing nothing about cheaters, then when someone gets suspended you whine, piss, and moan that people get suspended.

 

That's a broad generalization of what exactly people are bitching about, which is KDE banning/suspending people for things that didn't take place within the tournament venue. It really isn't any of their business if you stole an alligator or not etc. Hell, what does that even fall under within their set of infractions.

I disagree completely, it's wise of them to decide to disallow those who are prone to illegal activity from their events, just like it's wise for a parent to prohibit their children from hanging out with "friends" who are a poor influence. If someone is willing to break civil law, they're likely not to bat an eyelash as breaking KDE's policies and rules. Why take the risk? This same thought pattern is reflected in many organizations and competitions. Association with those breaking the law  reflects poorly upon any group, organization, or company. Protecting the company and the safety and integrity of any event KDE runs is indeed their business.

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